Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012 !! BAN LIFTED !!

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Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012 !! BAN LIFTED !!

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As of November 25th 2012

Gatecrasher has been permanently banned from DOU servers.

Feel free to appeal to your ban if you think you need to.
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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All bans are ‘permanent’. Permanent bans are voted for by the DOU members, except by running cheats, nicklaming and harasment/abusement.

Bans will be permanent, but with an appeal process. When banned, even if the appeal is successful, it can not be lifted before 30 days. An appeal to a ban can be made on this thread, or by sending a message to the author of this topic.

If you should not appeal, the ban stays permanent. If we discover, while appealing, you're still playing on the server the ban stays on.

If the appeal is not to our satisfaction the ban stays permanent. After the appeal you need to get voted in again by the DOU clan to get unbanned !

An appeal is a process for requesting a formal change to an official decision.
If the appeal is successful the permanent ban will be cleared after 30days, starting from the moment the appeal was voted for.
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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I would like to let my side of this be heard, since it wasnt afforded to me. A few days ago during a game, DOU Rad mentioned that only cheaters experience "image dropping". He said he shot at me but I was located somewhere else. Well I also experienced this while trying to shoot several other players. My bullets would go right through them and they would quickly disappear. I dont know what that was about, but I am pretty sure that I am not image dropping.

My scoring average obviously denounces any form of cheating on my end. I usually only get lucky enough to get above 80% either against bots or on rare occasions when I get a good spot on a big map. You guys always say that you can check the logs right? Well check the logs. I dont know what your logs consist of, but I play by your rules. And I dont cheat.

Im 29 years old.....I have no need to cheat on a 13 year old game....I play this for fun. I would like to play on DOU but I cant, everyone instantly kicked me. And I cant play on other servers because of my IP being on the ban list.

So what will it take to have this ban lifted?

Also, when I recently re-installed this game, I had to install ACEv08g_C before I could play on ANY server. I believe it was to prevent cheating. Once installed, I could play on UT99 servers. I hope this information helps.
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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You were caught on the Extreme snipers server using a VTable Hook.
A VTable Hook is a well known hack.

As I understand a VTable Hook is aimbotsoftware. The aimbotsoftware needs to be started before the game to get the aimbot injected into the unrealtournament.exe so its nothing which is somewhere in your systemfolder you may have forgotten to delete.

Our policy is to Ban players using a cheat without any warnings.
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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Okay thanks for the info. I understand the lack of merit my word holds on a message board, but I can tell you, and all who I play with, that I did not intentionally seek out any form of hack or cheat to use against others.

I have downloaded a few dozen maps from various UT websites though. Its a possibility that this file, VTable hook, was attached to one of the maps I downloaded. But as far as I know, I have never willingly downloaded anything to be used as cheating.

Is it something I can delete and then carry on playing? Is there a type of trial run that a DOU member/admin can give? Like a one-on-one match to see that my system is clean?
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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That would be hard, because a cheat can be turned off and on when needed. We have an appeal procedure as mentioned above. You can give it a try.
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Then I would like to appeal this ban then....since its complete bollocks. I have not deliberately installed and/or used any cheating software. I just searched my system for this file some one else says I have and its not on my device. Anyone who has played with me should know that I play like utter shit and should be able to vouch for me that I am not cheating.

What else is required of me in this appeals process?
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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And do you have any supporting documents that identify me as a cheater? For example, can you print screen the log that links my IP with the supposed software I am alleged to be using? Or can you message or email me the log? I'd like to see the evidence myself since I am the one accused of cheating.
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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It is a fact that you have been caught using a cheat on another server.

Maybe you know you were running a cheat, maybe you dont. I cant judge that. I can only look at the facts. From all cheaters I've ever banned no one has ever stepped forward and admitted that he did use a cheat.

I'll hope you understand my point of view.

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Here is the requested document:

ACEv08g]: PlayerName...: Gatecrasher
[ACEv08g]: PlayerIP.....: 68.114.136.27
[ACEv08g]: OS...........: Microsoft Windows 7/2008 R2 x64 (Version: 6.1.7601)
[ACEv08g]: CPU..........: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4500 @ 2.30GHz
[ACEv08g]: CPUSpeed.....: 2291.754121 Mhz Measured - 2294.245799 Mhz Reported
[ACEv08g]: NICDesc......: Dell Wireless 1397 WLAN Mini-Card
[ACEv08g]: MACHash1.....: C78875317A240C19B43E97800C7BADFC
[ACEv08g]: MACHash2.....: AE30301DF93AD73658CB73EAA0A543AE
[ACEv08g]: HWID.........: 6E432AD17CCEB0CE7637A423C06632D2
[ACEv08g]: UTVersion....: 451
[ACEv08g]: Renderer.....: SoftDrv.SoftwareRenderDevice
[ACEv08g]: SoundDevice..: Galaxy.GalaxyAudioSubsystem
[ACEv08g]: CommandLine..: <none>
[ACEv08g]: KickReason...: VTable Hook
[ACEv08g]: TimeStamp....: 21-11-2012 / 17:10:51
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: | Extra Info |
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: ModuleHandle.: 0x10300000
[ACEv08g]: ModuleName...: Engine.dll
[ACEv08g]: HookedObject.: ActorChannel Transient.ActorChannel10294
[ACEv08g]: HookedEntry..: 0
[ACEv08g]: Found........: 0x06204800 -> Unknown Module!Unknown Function+0x0000
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: ModuleHandle.: 0x10300000
[ACEv08g]: ModuleName...: Engine.dll
[ACEv08g]: HookedObject.: ActorChannel Transient.ActorChannel10294
[ACEv08g]: HookedEntry..: 1
[ACEv08g]: Found........: 0x00000001 -> Unknown Module!Unknown Function+0x0000
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: ModuleHandle.: 0x10300000
[ACEv08g]: ModuleName...: Engine.dll
[ACEv08g]: HookedObject.: ActorChannel Transient.ActorChannel10294
[ACEv08g]: HookedEntry..: 2
[ACEv08g]: Found........: 0x09B2E4C0 -> Unknown Module!Unknown Function+0x0000
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: | Screenshot Status |
[ACEv08g]: +---------------------------------------------------------------+
[ACEv08g]: Success......: TRUE
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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I completely understand your point of view, having been on your side of the fence many times with real world and internet world situations.

I downloaded the ACEv08g_C as required because I couldnt play otherwise, and it was supposed to block cheating. So how is it that I am able to use a cheat with ACE?

If anything, I would like some help on how to remove this file from my system since I couldnt find it using regular searching. I would like to just play for fun like before.

Thanks for the info by the way.
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Thanks for your replies on this post.

For this moment I will be awaiting the comments of the other DOU members, before getting into further details...


* I will put up a post in the members only section to see what they think of your story so far.
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Thanks Natan for your replies as well. I appreciate your help in enabling my understanding of whats going on.

I have google'd VTable Hook and it has brought me to an uncomfortably large amount of cheating websites and forums. All of which explain and have tutorials on what VTable Hook is. As I read these sites, I get more frustrated that I am banned because I have no damn clue on what they are talking about, let alone how to use cheats.

Here is one of the UT sites about ACE
http://www.unrealadmin.org/forums/showt ... 016&page=2

Cheater page
http://www.mpgh.net/forum/282-alliance- ... oking.html

Cheater page 2
http://www.unknowncheats.me/forum/c-and ... oblem.html
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Re: Gatecrasher Banned As Of November 25th 2012

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And if any of you need to contact me, my email is shizane2002@gmail.com and I am Shane Soze on Facebook. I am part of the Clan DOU facebook page.
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hello DOU and gatecrasher!

I am KV and i admin the SX server and found the mentioned ACE log.
ACE is a cheat detection software we use to see if players are using illegal hackware.
Vtable hook usually means the software,in this case the engine dll was injected into by another section of code.For what reason we do not know but something happened when you were on the server.Most,if not just about all Vtable hooks logs have turned out to be cheats.

I no longer have the screenshot nor do i remember what it looked like anymore.I wish i did.
but i think the best way to find out if this log file is a confirmed cheat is to post the log onto unrealadmin.org and see what the developers and beta testers have to say about it.
if someone trustworthy on there can say its a false positive then it was my mistake for making an issue about it. I usually just ban all Vtable hooks due to them mostly being cheats and the risk of private hooks being used on my server.

also if DOU has any logs of you,they should also check to be sure the person i banned is you or not.From their server logs they can verify that by comparing the information from both the logs. I have been getting alot of name steals and clan tag steals,so everyone beware.

Id hate to have a clean player banned for an errornous log or a name steal.
I think thats what we can do on our part. I am willing to work with any server admin if needed.

I also had a ucc log of gatecrasher getting a DOS when attemping to join the server after he was banned. Im not sure why he didnt contact us after that happened. Usually my impression is that they know we busted them. and since i havent seen much of him before,i just figured he got busted and moved on.
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