For Charger...

Unread post by **{DOU}Cygnus** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:12 pm

Kamikaze pilots wore their headgear because (if I'm not mistaken) they still needed to communicate and that's usually where the speakers for their radio was located.

Kamikaze link:

http://www.sinclair.edu/sec/his103/diary/103d01j1.htm

Unread post by **Tommy** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:14 pm

Plus one would assume that flying in those old planes was a rocky experience, especially when anti-aicraft discharges are going off all around you. So it stands to reason that they would need to stay conscious long enough to make that last dive.

T

Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:59 am

In 1944 when the first Kamikaze attack groups were created they didn't have that technology. I do agree with tommy that they still had to get there.

After the fall of Saipan in July, 1944, Admiral Takijiro Onishi, commander of 1st Air Fleet in the Philippines, created the Special Attack Groups of suicide dive-bombing pilots known as kamikazes. Young men were inspired to volunteer as they wished to die for their country. Pilots were trained in just over a week to fly their modified Mitsubishi A6M fighters.

The first kamikaze attack on enemy warships first took place in the struggle for the Philippines in 1944. Kamikaze pilots aimed at the central elevator on carriers and the base of the bridge on large warships. As they had to fly at low altitudes they were very vulnerable to anti-aircraft guns.

During April 1945 kamikaze pilots under Admiral Soema Toyoda launched 1,400 suicide missions as part of Operation Ten-Go. It is estimated that these suicide pilots sunk 26 ships during this campaign. More than 2,000 kamikaze missions were also flown against the US fleet at Okinawa (April-July 1945). By this time the US Navy had learnt how to deal with kamikaze attacks and few ships were hit.

Kamikaze pilots continued to be active until the dropping of the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Admiral Takijiro Onishi, commander of the Special Attack Group, committed suicide when he heard that Emperor Hirohito had surrendered.

Now, on to question number 2......

Unread post by **{DOU}Cygnus** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:27 am

Charger wrote:In 1944 when the first Kamikaze attack groups were created they didn't have that technology. I do agree with tommy that they still had to get there.

Hmmnm. The oval-shaped projections on the side of their head-gear would indicate that you're mistaken.

JB

Unread post by **{DOU}Cygnus** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:32 am

Tommy wrote:Plus one would assume that flying in those old planes was a rocky experience, especially when anti-aicraft discharges are going off all around you. So it stands to reason that they would need to stay conscious long enough to make that last dive.

T

I imagine it was quite horrendous just getting to the target in most cases.
However, you need to keep in mind that that the "helmet" Charger refers to is actually headgear that is flexible, made out of leather and would offer little protection against a concussion. They're much more closely related to what was worn in WW I than what is used today.

JB

Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:39 am

Sorry X, but the oval projections were not part of the of the helmet. They just had leather with fur lining, most likely for warmth. As for the projections, headphones. Handheld mics. were used also.[/img]

Moon · Unread post by **Moon** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:36 am

BTW, how can you put pictures in a post like you just did (and Bison and others...)

Unread post by **Tommy** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:50 pm

Moon wrote:BTW, how can you put pictures in a post like you just did (and Bison and others...)

You do it with the img tag like this:

Code: Select all

[img]http://www.moonspictures.com/picture.jpg[/img]

T

Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:04 pm

Shouldn't this be in the general forum

Unread post by **Tommy** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:10 pm

You just aren't in the loop

In Chargers application, in the questions field, he asked why Kamikaze pilots wear helmets.

T

Tue Aug 09, 2005 2:24 pm

Tommy wrote:You just aren't in the loop

In Chargers application, in the questions field, he asked why Kamikaze pilots wear helmets.

T

Still don't belong here

Unread post by **{DOU}Cygnus** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:35 pm

Charger wrote:

Sorry X, but the oval projections were not part of the of the helmet. They just had leather with fur lining, most likely for warmth. As for the projections, headphones. Handheld mics. were used also.[/img]

I still have to disagree. The fur lining in their headgear covered most if not all of the interior.
Some of the photos I've seen of Kamikaze pilots clearly shows built-in headphones.
But all that aside, the point I was trying to make is that what they wore wasn't a helmet.

JB

Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:38 pm

)(er)(es wrote: I still have to disagree. The fur lining in their headgear covered most if not all of the interior.
Some of the photos I've seen of Kamikaze pilots clearly shows built-in headphones.
But all that aside, the point I was trying to make is that what they wore wasn't a helmet.

JB

Dont bother charger

JB will disagree with what ever you say or post

Unread post by **Tommy** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:41 pm

)(er)(es wrote:Some of the photos I've seen of Kamikaze pilots clearly shows built-in headphones.

Not necessarily headphones. That might be some sort of built in deal so they can still hear while wearing the helmet. I would assume that a leather helmet that was fur-lined might impede my ability to hear...just a thought.

T

Unread post by **Tommy** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:42 pm

{DOU} -=BiSoN=- wrote:
)(er)(es wrote: I still have to disagree. The fur lining in their headgear covered most if not all of the interior.
Some of the photos I've seen of Kamikaze pilots clearly shows built-in headphones.
But all that aside, the point I was trying to make is that what they wore wasn't a helmet.

JB
Dont bother charger JB will disagree with what ever you say or post

Me too!

T