Interesting News

I'd sell a kidney to get Mhor and WalknBullseye! I thought about this when I first heard about it, but I didn't want the world to picture buzzards in their minds when they thought of DOU. It would be worth checking into but we should wait until it's officially over with. Have a good one.

-Johnny Jones

Draco wrote: I'd sell a kidney to get Mhor and WalknBullseye! I thought about this when I first heard about it, but I didn't want the world to picture buzzards in their minds when they thought of DOU. It would be worth checking into but we should wait until it's officially over with. Have a good one.

-Johnny Jones

Also consider that it may well be that a group of them may stick together and reform the clan under a new name.

I do feel though it wouldn't be a bad idea to have as many of us as possible put an appearance in at the bash they're planning.

-JB

hey i know that :[lol]:pred!luvian is good!!!! he is in my other clan for battlefield 2142!!! i know he use to be good. havent seen him in awhile though. 😉

Draco wrote: I'd sell a kidney to get Mhor and WalknBullseye! I thought about this when I first heard about it, but I didn't want the world to picture buzzards in their minds when they thought of DOU. It would be worth checking into but we should wait until it's officially over with. Have a good one.

-Johnny Jones

Agreed Draco, no one should approach them till after the smoke clears, it would be very "buzzard " like to do otherwise.

We don't need that kind of reputation.

mAmA

If we had more members it would keep tommy busy for a while...

Hopefully theese guys are decent players and would be interested in us...

If my scheduling at work wasn't so screwed up at this new place I'm at (pretty much pushed arround on shifts that nobody else wants) I would be more active here... and my internet back full swing would help...

I already posted about this in another section, but hey, why have 1 thread when you can have 2, right? 😉

The vast majority of LOL has formed a new clan and left UT99 for UT2k4. The others I believe are the trouble-makers that caused the clan to break-up in the first place. We don't want these people of course.

Walking Bullseye told me that he will still be around and will help anybody who needs help with any mut's, etc...hint, hint.

Also in the news, DMF has also just officially announced that they have completely left UT99 for UT2k4. They were also a long-time clan that I will be sad to see go.

Rather then trying to recruit these people, I see a different and equally good opportunity presenting itself. With LOL and DMF leaving the community, 2 UT99 Camping / Sniper servers are going the way of the west.

Before I go further, let me give you my take on this from my experience in the Q2 community. Back in the day there were tons and tons and tons of Q2 servers like there are now for UT99. However, all good things must come to an end. As servers dropped, traffic on other servers actually increased quite a bit. This does make sense as all the non-clan members that play on a server need to find a new place to play. What ended up happening is that the servers / clans that were well positioned got all the traffic, the ones that were not were and still are ghost-town servers that see a straggler connect for 5 minutes once a week.

This is something I see us needing to concentrate on more then worrying about new recruits. New recruits will help, but we need to get the masses aware of us.

UT99 still has a lot of life left in it, but like Q2, it will eventually die. This may be sooner then a lot of us would like. So we need to get on the stick (easy Jarg, that's just a figure of speech, lol) now and let the world know that the DOU servers are the Place to play.

Some things we can do now:

01) Get our clan listed and at the top of the top20, top50, and top100 sites. This should actually be somewhat easy and I will post the details about it soon. OMA is always at the top of these lists and they only have lioke 20 or so votes a month. We can get a campaign going and move to the top and stay there. Perhaps we could create a clan position where someone just manages this and makes sure that everybody is voting every month. All that is necessary is clicking on a link, you don't even have to sign up to anything. I don't know how much traffic this would drive to our servers, but any traffic is good.

02) Make sure we are offering the games that people want to play. We are doing good with the sniper and uzi servers. The Bolt Action server seems to have a cult-following too. I'd like to see Dim get the Instagib server back up too. We also have to be less helpful in some regards. If we help every other clan set up an uzi or bolt action server, then they put up a server and take away our traffic. I am not saying we should be dicks here. If someone needs help with something specific we will help as we would normally do. But if someone comes in and says "hey, I'd like an uzi server too, please help me (do all the work) set one up," we should be less than 100% eager to do this. Just ask then what they need specific help on.

03) Be more hard-assesd on cheaters and undesirable players. This goes without saying. but we should not be too hard-assed, especially with noobs. This kills servers, I have seen it happen time and time again.

04) Advertise our servers on other clan forums as much as possible. This way people see the posts and when another clan takes the UT99 shit, the forum regulars will be familiar with DOU. Maybe a clan position could be created here as well? I don't mean just spam to every board once but somewhat regularly. When people visit forums they usually read all posts. If every once in awhile there is a reminder that DOU exists then it may stick in the back of peoples minds.

05) Hold more events. This way we will be in everybody's favorites list, and when a server goes down and they look in the favorites for a new server to play on, they may choose ours.

06) Create more content that we would distribute to the community. Things like sound paks, skins, and maps. The one thing I have noticed from all the maps we have created is that none of them have a graphic with our website address in them. I plan on doing some map conversions very soon and will make sure that our address is in all of them. Maybe Draco and Talon could update their maps to add this?

07) Think up more ideas.

The point is this - we have a great opportunity here. But if we snooze, we lose.

Comments?

Tommy

Tommy wrote: We also have to be less helpful in some regards. If we help every other clan set up an uzi or bolt action server, then they put up a server and take away our traffic. I am not saying we should be dicks here. If someone needs help with something specific we will help as we would normally do. But if someone comes in and says "hey, I'd like an uzi server too, please help me (do all the work) set one up," we should be less than 100% eager to do this. Just ask then what they need specific help on.

I don't think that I do this. I only usually help out with the mapvote. It seems to be the most difficult thing for people to figure out.

-Johnny Jones

A lot of good ideas T. 8)

I think we are one of the most hospitable clans out there, but we could do better ! ( your point # 3 Tommy )

We are pretty friendly with the noobs in general and personally I always offer to show them little map secrets or offer tips so they can play better without being too condescending.

Noobs, in my opinion, are the future ( if there is one ) of UT 99. For there to be new recruits, there needs to be new players. I think we should all work to cultivate this whenever possible and go out of our way, without being kiss-asses, to make a new players experience on our servers a fun one.

Otherwise.... we pummel little johnny into oblivion with headshots and he quits UT and joins the french foreign legion. 😛

I would also like to see us host more events and have a good clan turnout for them. I think thats a great way of getting people to come around more.

Last, I would like to see us develop some new cool maps, as well as get our info plastered EVERYWHERE in the ones we have already. Pictures, signs, billboards, whatever's in the map, you shouldn't have to look too far to see " Clan DOU " info.

mAmA

Tommy wrote:
02) Make sure we are offering the games that people want to play. We are doing good with the sniper and uzi servers. The Bolt Action server seems to have a cult-following too. I'd like to see Dim get the Instagib server back up too. We also have to be less helpful in some regards. If we help every other clan set up an uzi or bolt action server, then they put up a server and take away our traffic. I am not saying we should be dicks here. If someone needs help with something specific we will help as we would normally do. But if someone comes in and says "hey, I'd like an uzi server too, please help me (do all the work) set one up," we should be less than 100% eager to do this. Just ask then what they need specific help on.

We only have UT99 setup right now but we had Quake2 and UT2004 servers setup before and what are we missing???

How many other type of game servers can we have...

We offer anyone to use our TS at will which gets little attention....

I don't even know if our IRC is still up or if anyone uses it anymore...

If we helped others setup their servers make sure that they are in agreement to advertize our servvers and website.

Tommy wrote: 04) Advertise our servers on other clan forums as much as possible. This way people see the posts and when another clan takes the UT99 shit, the forum regulars will be familiar with DOU. Maybe a clan position could be created here as well? I don't mean just spam to every board once but somewhat regularly. When people visit forums they usually read all posts. If every once in awhile there is a reminder that DOU exists then it may stick in the back of peoples minds.

I've actually thought I had some play in getting ASC interested in us but I'm not tooo sure.... the more decent clans like OMF and FCS should need our appearance on their servers as well to more or less say WE'RE HERE!!!!

Tommy wrote: 06) Create more content that we would distribute to the community. Things like sound paks, skins, and maps. The one thing I have noticed from all the maps we have created is that none of them have a graphic with our website address in them. I plan on doing some map conversions very soon and will make sure that our address is in all of them. Maybe Draco and Talon could update their maps to add this?

If I can figure out how to use UNREAL-ED to make maps I would be glad to but for now I'll try to find a add-on for my 3D Studio to make some maps... I Used to make some maps for Quake2 but didn't really get into it that much to easily get used to the UT99 editor... I did a re-vamp of massive bedroom for Quake2 to name one...

And I think I still have a D/L of a SOUNDPACK maker somewhere and I'll find some clips to play arround with...

Tommy wrote: 07) Think up more ideas.

Yeah goood idea...

I don't think I have ever heard about using MAX to make maps. However, I have read that autocad cannot make maps. Even the plugin they created for autocad didn't work right. UnrealEd is kinda difficult to work in but becomes easier once you get used to it. I'm always happy to lend my help(in the stuff I know) in the learning process, and Talon would probably be the same way. Although, Talon would definatly be the better source. Have a good one.

-Johnny Jones

😀 You know i'll help in what ever i can. 😀

We have so much here to offer. Just a thought... make a special web page geared up for web spiders to pick up on for our clan (not just the home page now, you can add a ton of meta info on a new page or 2 just for this))... A page or 2 with search terms and comments that could get hits from google, yahoo etc with content that would bring peeps to us. Voice packs, tuts, review area of our maps... Perhaps our own server check out list where we list some clans and servers that are already DOU friendly might be good (one hand washes the other...). The ideas for just this lil part of T's ideas above could help bring at least a small trickle. Add the top lists, and outside forum posts etc... Then we have a nice foundation for netting new guests and fresh meat.

It would take a long time to get at the top of serach pages... the sooner the better.

{DOU}-=TALON=- wrote: 😀 You know i'll help in what ever i can. 😀

I've got a DVD with the GOTY edition of UT99 that only comes with UrealEd2 and I've not found a source that could teach me on how to use it properly for anything...

If I can get away with making maps in 3D Studio MAX for Unreal that would be verrrrrrry helpful since it would be much easier for me since I'm more familiar with it...

Anyone know how to convert .3DS to UT99???

I may need a personal TUTOR to teach me on how to use UnrealEd(2)

GRouND ZeRo wrote: [quote={DOU}-=TALON=-]:D You know i'll help in what ever i can. 😀

Anyone know how to convert .3DS to UT99???

I may need a personal TUTOR to teach me on how to use UnrealEd(2)

I know that they have a 3ds2unr program to convert weapon meshes but I don't know if it works for entire worlds. I'll check in to it since I know how to use 3ds max to an extent and I'll help tutor you. I figure if Tommy can get it, anyone can. 😀

-Johnny Jones