Roll-T-Dice Submitted A Clan DOU Recruitment Form.
Please share your thoughts about this guy, so we can judge him on being suitable as a recruit or not.
Here it is the form:
The aFromMail form submitted:
Website from.........:
Sponsor from.........: None
Games from...........: UT99, Battlefield 3, Halo 3
Previousclans from...: (Old: ~iCu~ iCTF clan. active between 2001/2005
Currentclans from....: None
Hobbies..............: Hobbies: Darts, Movies
Skills...............: In the old days i made UT maps and Skins.
Did a litle of Photoshop to do signatures for other ppl
Questions............:
Anythingelse.........:
Age..................: 13 Or Over
Rules................: I agree with DOU's rules
Send.................: 1
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DATE/TIME : 2013-01-21 14:49:10
Young, ambitious, nice guy, good player, respecting rules. I believe he could anchor in the clan for a long time.
:peace_v:
DK
Rad wrote: Young, ambitious, nice guy, good player, respecting rules. I believe he could anchor in the clan for a long time.
:peace_v:
agreed. :peace_v:
No thoughts, never seen him.
I will wait for a few more days.
If there are no complaints I will be available to sponsor him.
NATAN wrote: I will wait for a few more days.
If there are no complaints I will be available to sponsor him.
Nah.....
This is not a complaint in fact.
But I support my opinion respect the guest players should play in the server for some months before being chosen or accepted as recruits.
This was already discussed months ago.
It is a shame that so many discussions are so useless.
Therefore I am opposed to this recruiting. It is too premature.
GAMETRACKER ROLL-T-DICE'S STATS
PLAYER SUMMARY
First Seen: Dec 31, 2012
Less than a month.
Rad wrote: Young, ambitious, nice guy, good player, respecting rules. I believe he could anchor in the clan for a long time.
:peace_v:
Sorry Rad, this does not mean anything. The same was said about several trumped recruits.....
You know that.
Problem in these discussions about someone letting play for a few months before recruiting them is that we already have a 3 month period to see if someone is fit for the clan or not.
If we want someone to play any longer on the server we could just set the recruitment period to 4 or 5 months. I personaly as a Recruitment Officer think 3 months should be enough to decide if someone if good to go as a full member. I am repeating myself here when I say we had players who did come around for more than a year before recruiting and still werent made out of the right stuff to become a full member. If we recruit him he will be playing for four months on the server, including the month he is on now. In my opinion thats long enough to make a decent discision.
Clans are dying around us and we survive because we take changes in recruiting players. Some of them will be perfect and some of them will not, no matter how much time they have spend on the server.
When someones vote comes on to decide if one is ready to become a full member that is when good decissions should be made and not on forehand. If a recruit turns out to be a problem within his recruitment period, we can still decide to let it go. No need to forfill the full 3 months in that situation.
Only thing we should need to know before recruiting, and that's the purpose of topics like these, is if someone isnt a rulebreaker or someone who is anoying others on the server.
NATAN wrote: Problem in these discussions about someone letting play for a few months before recruiting them is that we already have a 3 month period to see if someone is fit for the clan or not.
In the past we choose proven well players. Most of the best and active members, like you Natan, Grubb, Rad, Nuker, Abbe, Concrete, Balony, Deadeye, Jacobite, Vioguez and many others were well known players before the recruitment, and all you did the three months recruitment period with no damage at all. Me too.
We need to check the real interest of the players. Recent experiences are bad in that point.
NATAN wrote: If we want someone to play any longer on the server we could just set the recruitment period to 4 or 5 months. I personaly as a Recruitment Officer think 3 months should be enough to decide if someone if good to go as a full member. I am repeating myself here when I say we had players who did come around for more than a year before recruiting and still werent made out of the right stuff to become a full member. If we recruit him he will be playing for four months on the server, including the month he is on now. In my opinion thats long enough to make a decent discision.
I disagree with this. To know if he is good or not, is not the only thing we need to check in a future member. The main problem is when the recruitment start, the recruit begins to use our tag. And in more than one occasion these recruits have left us badly in front to other clans and including our guests.
NATAN wrote: Clans are dying around us and we survive because we take changes in recruiting players. Some of them will be perfect and some of them will not, no matter how much time they have spend on the server.
I know that many clans have disappeared, but also there are hundreds and hundreds of nostalgic players who come and they will come in the future. Many of them will be able to be good members. Our fortitude is not in the number but in the quality of our members.
I do not believe that we need this desperate recruiting
NATAN wrote: When someones vote comes on to decide if one is ready to become a full member that is when good decissions should be made and not on forehand. If a recruit turns out to be a problem within his recruitment period, we can still decide to let it go. No need to forfill the full 3 months in that situation.
Only thing we should need to know before recruiting, and that's the purpose of topics like these, is if someone isnt a rulebreaker or someone who is anoying others on the server.
Most of failed recruits were not rulebreakers, and some of them were mentioned like very cool guys, full of interest and big promises, but they failed due several other reasons: Inmadurity, the believing the clan is to serve them, incapability to follow so many rules that we have, impatience and lack of interest.
Its all very simple R_mad. Recruiting is taking risks. Take it or leave it.
NATAN wrote: Its all very simple R_mad. Recruiting is taking risks. Take it or leave it.
Never.
This is not the roulette of the death.
We are responsible people. Or we should be.
The members have said to you often, that here there is a problem with your policy, and you refuse to listen.
Do not count with my silence or complicity.
Here is the opinion of several respectable members:
http://clandou.com/html/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=47&jfile=viewtopic.php&f=15&t=9345
I'm voted for as a Recruit Officer. If members dislike my actions as a recruitment officer, start a poll and choose another one thats more to your desire and wishes.
I agree with R_Mad, 100%
NATAN wrote: I'm voted for as a Recruit Officer. If members dislike my actions as a recruitment officer, start a poll and choose another one thats more to your desire and wishes.
Nobody is objecting the legitimacy of your position. And no poll is necessary. On the contrary, we have asked you responsibly and with arguments, like recruiting officer, to do changes in the recruitment policy.
We are ancient members and we deserve that our opinion is taken in mind.
Give us a respectful answer, not that take it or leave it.
I will no longer take in recruits that havenβt been on the server for at least 3 months. When I have received an application form I will check Gametracker to see if they have been around at least for that period of time.
I will still post every apllication form submitted on the forum as information to the clan.
I will make up a standard reply for the ones that do not comply to the time limit of three months.
The First one to receive this standard reply will be Roll-T-Dice.
Thanks all for the comments on this subject.
Exceptions can be made in certain occasions, but thats for the clan to decide.