Tanner

Below is a copy of a pm I sent to Cygus yesterday .....

{DOU} yO mAmA

To: {DOU}_Cygnus_X_1

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:27 pm

Subject: Guess who's at it again 2

Well,

Wave and I handed the Body stackers their first loss today.

I should be happy except for the fact that during the second map, which they were losing, Tanner ( you KNEW this was comming, lol ) started accussing us of playing dirty, running, hiding, blah blah blah. Couldn't seem to make up his mind. First we were hiding too much, then running too much, go figure.

If he had a beef he thought was legit, he should have gone through proper channels and reported it to Tommy or maybe is sponsor but no, Tanner can't seem to remember to follow policy.

And as I had mentioned earlier, Tanner ran quite a bit during the match. He accounted for about 90% of his teams deaths and our points so he was pretty steamed and I could see why. Personally I didn't feel we had done anything wrong much less anything deserving of remarks like that. I did shoot him a few times when he was flying a deemer but if thats illegal I am unaware of it.

After today, I am not interested in having anything further to do with Mr Tanner

mAmA

Below is a post sent to Cygnus a few days ago ....

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From: {DOU} yO mAmA

To: {DOU}_Cygnus_X_1

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:24 pm

Subject: Guess who's at it again ...

Hey Cyg,

He's at it again. Complaining and correcting. Can't stand it I guess.

Today at 8:45 pm EST Tanner was telling Korn that he was" Swirly camping "and that he wasn't supposed to be doing that.

I had been spectating and saw this particular incident. The map was Punky's bar. Korn was in one of the gound floor tunnels behind the juke box. He was working an area duck walking around the corner back and forth. Did not seem that he was focused on the portal near there at all. He was shooting players as they entered the tunnels from 3 different entrys.

Anyway, I typed " Tanner .... " trying to caution him and at the same time not trying to embarass him on the server. He answered " Did you want me Mama ?" I forgot exactly what I had typed after that. Something like "Cautioning you".

Later at the end of the map Korn said something to Tanner about not camping the portal and Tanner told him he wouldn't talk about it there on the server. I'm pretty sure that was for my benefit.

IMO ...I don't think he can wait till he's got the full tag and can bitch at everyone. The language you used in that post seemed pretty straight forward to me

http://www.clandou.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4054

Also Tanners playing is not nearly as clean as he'd like everyone to think. I have seen him revenge several times. He also runs a bit. Funny since he's the first to complain about other peoples playing.

mAmA

I have spoken with Cygnus and he thought the membership should be made aware of these incidents, I agree.

This is a pretty good indicator of the type of clan member Tanner will make.

mAmA

He just cant seem to control his whinning. He knows that he shouldn't do it but I think he has issues with himself. It isn't us. I just laugh at him and tell him to shut up. When he shuts up he is not a bad guy.

Wave wrote: When he shuts up he is not a bad guy.

How often does that happen ? 😆

mAmA

I was on the same team with Tanner during match 3 from the last DOU vs DOU. He was commenting that so-and-so had assaulted him and then someone else did it to him too. The kids were having some problems cratering in that map and after awhile he was telling them to stay on the ground.

Mama, my mommy told me to always look for the good in people. But you are right, he doesn't shut up very often

We were all playing a 2 v 2 scrimmage last night like we do most nights. Tanner had a hissy-fit and then refused to play a map I had chosen and then threatened to stop playing unless we picked something else. We both had a tiny on our teams. The tiny on Tanners team echoed what Tanner said. So, a lot needs to be considered here.

I don't think the tiny on his team would have pulled shit like that had Tanner not been around, so I am thinking bad influence situation here.

We wanted to play so I gave in and changed the map. Mind you all that it was the 4th map we were playing and they chose the first 3. By giving in I guess I was rewarding his bad behavior. I should have said fuck it and let them leave. We just wanted to play. Beat him all 4 maps though, lol.

As we all know his whining is unjustified. He runs and revenges and assaults like the worst of them and then bitches about other people doing so. When we mention the hypocrisy of this he just says that everybody else is doing it so he will too. You can *NEVER* be a part of the solution by being part of the problem.

It seems that when he is not being an asshole people tend to like him. So here is what I suggest we do. We give him one last warning, and if the problem continues, end his recruitment. Either his sponsor or a recruitment officer should tell him just that - start behaving or your application for membership will be pulled.

I personally don't think he is going to work out, so I think dealing with this sooner than later is the best thing to do. When we try to confront him he always makes an excuse as to why he has to leave to avoid the situation. And the last time we did get on him about it, he didn't come to vent for a week or 2, as if that would solve the problem.

And the icing on the cake is that he invited pyro to join the clan even after he heard us all talking about how we believe that pyro is cheating, and knowing that recruits can't sponsor people. That is another headache we will soon have to deal with, thanks for that!

So what say all of you?

Tommy

I'll get it taken care of.

Here's a copy of what I sent to Tanner:

Hello Tanner,

There have been many complaints made about allegations of cheating and of poor sportsmanship made recently. This has come from many sources.

There will be no more warnings about this. If there is another complaint regarding your behavior it will end your recruitment with Clan DOU.

Sincerely, Cygnus, Clan DOU Recruitment Officer

Bravo Cygnus.

You know where I stand T 😉

Heads in the noose, shouldn't be long before he kicks out the chair.

mAmA

Tommy wrote:

So what say all of you?

Tommy

Tell him to STFU or we will rip out his ass plug and shove it in down his throat.

I have only played with him a couple of times but I too have been an unfortunate witness to his crybaby style of play.

yea i have witnessed all these problems personally too but if he just avoids getting on vent and or playing period for a while aint going to fix his problem like he did last warning he got. maybe he will realize this time but i dout it.

Ok guys I have had Tanner send me the mail that Cygnus sent him and he does not see it as justified I do know that his winging is a problem and I am sick of it also. I am sorry I have not been about much I have had a lot on here and been very busy with work and tired when not working. I will try to get back on very soon. My suggestion is this as we can already see the vote is going to be a no so why bother prolonging it you have enough grounds to boot him now and if you decide this then so be it. I do think you may then have a issue with new players running and gunning on the server, he may try using different names and come in causing trouble. I hope that this can be resolved quickly.