".::/3I§ON wrote:
I dont even play on the sniper server anymore because of the kick happy admins that we have now. Hell, /23S got kicked for mearly saying she didnt like deemers? Really? Kickable offence by NATAN appearently but not in the rules. That was bullshit. Complete bullshit and overstepping admin powers.
Well it does put your replies on that thread about /23SU/2/23CT3|) in a whole different daylight don't you think? No wonder you were that hostile in your comments. Could have tell me it was your family and it was therefor that you were so offended by it. I always thought I missed something there.
You're telling me now you're not playing anymore on the server because of that action, are you serious? Sure it was a mistake to kick him. I can admit that. In retrospective I could have done better that time.
Reading your reply it still hurts doesn't it?
I can admit a mistake. The question is can you?
Accusing admins of being Kick happy and therefor not playing anymore on the server is a bit to easy.
When you're an admin you will make a mistake of judgement sometimes. So be it. Dont be so defencive and clear this thing up.
WOW!!! Talk about infantile attitude. WTF!!!!!
Has anyone even tried to talk nicely about this????
Grubb, sorry bud but you need to step away from this one. Just by the tone of your posts here it is obvious you have a personal issue with Bison.
The whole thread starts out as a personal attack against Bison and goes down hill from there. This is a long standing member of this Clan and he should not be attacked like this.
The way this is being handled is all BS and has the feel of a witch hunt.
Maybe if this started out by just asking the questions in stead of attacking he would have answered some by now. But the way this thread reads we all would have gone defensive.
Is there proof, solid proof, not someone saying /23SU/2/23CT3|) banned me. Which by the way legally considered hear say and not evidence. If there is proof
that /23SU/2/23CT3|) banned someone post it.
It is said he has played, w/o his tag and under the 4 alias' that are in the first post. I personally have played under one alias.
But please check my IP and see how many names you can come up with. I'm guessing somewhere in the range of 5 to 8, may be more.
Now because of all this valid questions have come up. They should be asked and answered.
But not in the witch hunt way it is being done here.
I would suggest that Natan, Cyg, or DM be the one or ones asking as it is thier job.
Looks like were back to an old topic, two sets of rules.
grubb
Lets put some things together here.
Ressurected is playing a game with Bakkoe. Bakkoe gets banned. Obviously done by using the RSA, because its not possible to kick/ban someone in game.
Everyone could have banned Bakkoe. There is no post on the forum by an admin banning Bakkoe. There is obviously no reason for a ban.
Three options I can think of:
1. Ressurected has used Bison’s admin powers to kick/ban a player.
2. Another Admin has abused his powers, without coming forward to admit it.
3. There is someone who knows how to use the RSA, but isn’t a member(no more) or related to a member.
The most plausible option imo would be the first. If Ressurected would admit that he has banned Bakkoe by using admin powers on the RSA the problem would be more clearer. And could be dealt with, so it won’t ever happen again.
Bison will be the only one in this matter who can decide if Ressurected is telling the truth here. But with Bison involved some see even him as a part of the problem. I had to think about this for a day, but I dont think Bison is that stupid to play under an alias and kick/ban a guest player without reason. So we should ask ourselfs, do we trust Bison enough?
I agree with Charger that Bison is an old member, but obvious not respected anymore by some members of the clan. He considers himself as the black sheep of DOU and I think that at the moment he realy is.
I concider Bison still as a part of the DOU family. However if this thing will not be cleared up it could be like a shadow hanging over him for quite awhile.
Sure Bison can be an ass and I bet he knows it himself all to good.
If there is no proof that Bison abused his admin powers, this case will be closed, but not to the satisfaction of a part of the clan. And thats the way as I see it.
Well the rule is if your a DOU member and you play on one of our servers you wear the tag, tommy has stated this many times. As for the who kicked question well i have asked this before when people were kicked/banned by nobody and nobody owned up then so i guess thats a dead issue now just like then and most admins know that only tommy has access to the logs so i guess it would have to wait till he can access them.....
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I am glad to see that this is taking a more logical, calm, and, less emotional tone.
As for me using an alias I did do it once. When I was considering coming back to playing I used one to both see how the server was (I was happy to see it was not over run by idiots) being played on, and so I would not be barraged by people wanting me to prove I was Charger as happened the last time I just popped in. Within a couple maps I felt that this was now once again a place I would feel comfortable playing so I dropped game got on TS and rejoined as {DOU}Charger. I did tell the people in TS that I had done this then also but I don't remember who was present at the time..
There will be multiple name associated with my IP as there are 4 other people who have played on our servers who live or lived in my house. One of which can never remember what he nick he played on last time....I may have dropped him on his head as a baby, soooo...not really his fault I guess. XD
Wasn't trying to be an asshole but when you get a retarded canadian spewing shit out on the forum w/o any kind of proof or even asking me to check into it on my end first then yes, I will get a little pissed off.
This could go on and on. How about change passwords on the RSA and see
if it happens again?
Wave wrote: This could go on and on. How about change passwords on the RSA and see
if it happens again?
:eek
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