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(@isabella)
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Well, I asked Tommy for it also…

Due my job, I have time to check the server at different hours of the day...

On the other hand I usually play in several other servers so I have a good idea about well known players (problem players or not...)

I signed several other clan forums as well (TA, TKK, WOLF, TNT, FSP, PsT, C-oPS, Geof, ZSZ) to read about general situations in the servers and do some relationships

I suggest you to request the adms to do this because is a good method to know better players behavior in the net… after all there are no many players there…

For example, in a german UT server I usually see a lot of the troublemakers, including djhardbpm and I learned about some others who frequent there…

Mimetic uses to play at TNT, TKK and PsT. He is welcome there and he is very polite with me and others, so I’m trying to understand his reasons to annoy us in our server…

Finally, I saw the links… the second one is closed…

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Topic starter Posted : 22/11/2009 6:49 pm
(@abberation)
Noble Member

Memetic is not welcome at TKK Mad. 😉

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Posted : 22/11/2009 8:53 pm
(@isabella)
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Abberation wrote: Memetic is not welcome at TKK Mad. 😉

I usually play with him there.. 😀

May be he is not welcome at TKK, but he plays freely there, and he is not banned there also...

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Topic starter Posted : 22/11/2009 9:03 pm
(@darkmatter)
Member Admin

I split this from the other post to keep things on topic.........

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Posted : 22/11/2009 9:20 pm
(@abberation)
Noble Member

R_Mad wrote: [quote=Abberation]Memetic is not welcome at TKK Mad. 😉

I usually play with him there.. 😀

May be he is not welcome at TKK, but he plays freely there, and he is not banned there also...

Even if you do he is still cheating and using radar. They dont have anything better than we do to stop him

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Posted : 23/11/2009 12:30 am
(@isabella)
Famed Member

Abberation wrote: [quote=R_Mad][quote=Abberation]Memetic is not welcome at TKK Mad. 😉

I usually play with him there.. 😀

May be he is not welcome at TKK, but he plays freely there, and he is not banned there also...

Even if you do he is still cheating and using radar. They dont have anything better than we do to stop him

Well I'm not saying he is not a cheater. I only said he plays there and he is polite as well with all people including me.

I do not understand his motivations or personal troubles, but undoubtedly there are something wrong in him.

I have a lot of experience solving complex situations at a former job, and to understand complex people you need to win their confidence. That is a very important thing in security issues...

That's the reason I like to talk with this people (runners and cheaters...)

I may sound condescending because I am friendly, but I'm not at all. I like to study the problems and once I have an opinion, I take a quick decision, something that is not common here among us... but a good analysis allows to do a difference between assholes and clueless players... 😮

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Topic starter Posted : 23/11/2009 2:31 am
 Evil
(@evil)
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R_Mad wrote: I may sound condescending because I am friendly, but I'm not at all.

Very perceptive of you to notice.

He was friendly here too until we started calling him on how he played. He came on vent a lot to tell us how stupid we are.. He tried to justify what he does by claiming others do it. Then after he read about the shadow command he constantly cries about that, even though he told us how he has a hacked driver that does the same thing. He claims the radar on the deemers is as good as what he uses when we know damn well it isn't. He comes on and says very nasty things to everyone, far worse than I have heard out of SS or any of the other scum. So please just quit defending him.

___-SM-___

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Posted : 23/11/2009 5:16 am
(@dou-yo-mama)
Member Admin

As Evil said, we used to be very friendly with Memetic until we started speaking to him about the way he was playing. We were very nice about it at first, but he immediately became angry and insulting. He is Canadian and has a good understanding of the english language as evidenced by his posts, he is quite capable of communicating his position as well as understanding ours.

To me, he does not appear to be in control of his emotions. I have heard him scream and yell and throw things after being shot in a map. What kind of rational adult behaves like that ? He acts like an 8 year old throwing a tantrum.

He is not a cluless player R-Mad, a devious one yes, clueless no. Speak with him all you like. You will find this is true.

mAmA

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Posted : 23/11/2009 6:07 am
(@isabella)
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Evil wrote: Very perceptive of you to notice...

... So please just quit defending him.

Sarcastic?

I know I have trouble expressing my ideas in ENGLISH...

so I asked an american citizen for to read the past posts and I asked him if these posts express a defence of Mimetic

HE SAID NO...(emphatically)...

and he request me to advise you to take a good course of reading...

never is too late...

{DOU} yO mAmA wrote: As Evil said,....

...He is not a cluless player R-Mad, a devious one yes, clueless no. Speak with him all you like. You will find this is true.

Evil did not say anything I do not know... and his interpretation of the past posts is wrong...

I never said Mimetic is clueless, on fact he is a big cheater... I do not understand your post...

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Topic starter Posted : 23/11/2009 11:00 pm
(@dou-yo-mama)
Member Admin

I think we may be missunderstanding each other.

to understand complex people you need to win their confidence. That is a very important thing in security issues...

That's the reason I like to talk with this people (runners and cheaters...)

I believed this meant you planned to speak with him to win his confidence. I am not sure what you hope to find out but if you think you should then go ahead.

but a good analysis allows to do a difference between assholes and clueless players...

He's not clueless so he is an ....... 😆 ( American sarcasm)

mAmA

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Posted : 24/11/2009 12:02 am
(@isabella)
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{DOU} yO mAmA wrote: I think we may be missunderstanding each other.

I believed this meant you planned to speak with him to win his confidence. I am not sure what you hope to find out but if you think you should then go ahead.

mAmA

yes, now I believe that too...

not really, about Mimetic I do not need to learn nothing more,

but I like to know new people who plays in our server...

Some of them run, that is true... but sometimes is because they are clueless

I like to help them, because for me was the same thing... I was kicked in several servers simply because I didn't understand that these servers were sniper servers.

Finally, a player in [TA] server had the politeness to talk me friendly and teach me the rules... was [TA] Stinger... a lot of time ago...

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Topic starter Posted : 24/11/2009 12:48 am
(@abberation)
Noble Member

I dont think Evil was meaning to make you Mad (pun intended)

I think all of us who play try to explain the rules to people. A majority of them will listen and try to camp even

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Posted : 24/11/2009 3:20 am
 Evil
(@evil)
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No I wasn't being sarcastic. I was impressed you picked up on the fact you might come across as condescending. Usually if someone is speaking that way they don't realize they might come across different than they intend too. Now go slap that tourist and tell him I read fine.

I just had the impression the way you keep talking about how he plays elsewhere and is such a great guy that you think we are picking on him for no reason. You can't keep comparing people like him to the clueless runners like they are similar. I explain the rules to new people all the time. We try hard to get them to understand. We don't pick on them. We try to help them whenever possible, it's always really good when they ask some questions and come away understanding. Someone like him that deliberately defies the rules and then comes on the forum and vent to harass us is totally different. Or even those SGH guys, difficult seems to speak english pretty well, he asks questions, I tell him and the very next thing he does is the opposite I tell him. Then he laughs. Those type of people have no respect for the rules even though they understand them.

So if you don't mean to compare them, then let's just agree that we hate him and move on eh?

___-SM-___

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Posted : 24/11/2009 3:58 am
(@isabella)
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Evil wrote: No I wasn't being sarcastic. I was impressed you picked up on the fact you might come across as condescending. Usually if someone is speaking that way they don't realize they might come across different than they intend too. Now go slap that tourist and tell him I read fine.

I just had the impression the way you keep talking about how he plays elsewhere and is such a great guy that you think we are picking on him for no reason. You can't keep comparing people like him to the clueless runners like they are similar. I explain the rules to new people all the time. We try hard to get them to understand. We don't pick on them. We try to help them whenever possible, it's always really good when they ask some questions and come away understanding. Someone like him that deliberately defies the rules and then comes on the forum and vent to harass us is totally different. Or even those SGH guys, difficult seems to speak english pretty well, he asks questions, I tell him and the very next thing he does is the opposite I tell him. Then he laughs. Those type of people have no respect for the rules even though they understand them.

So if you don't mean to compare them, then let's just agree that we hate him and move on eh?

I maintain my opinion that you do not read well the posts...

First you are insisting in something I never said: "Mimetic is clueless" (please read again, is so easy...)

Other problem is that is not the first time you say me I'm defending cheaters. Considering the facts, that is a insulting thing to me.

I asked myself why you do that, and my only answer is you do not read well the posts, because I assume you are a well intentioned person.

In this case, I was only saying Mimetic can play freely in other servers and people there does not seems paranoid like us in our server. That are facts that I saw by myself... not a story told by others..

So, talk about such a thing about Mimetic is only informative. That is not to defend him or to say he is a great guy..., you are putting words in my mouth...

If I say Mimetic is polite with me, is only to express my surprise about his contradictions (I think he is a little sick person). That is not to defend him...

and so...

I do not hate him. I think the clan had given him excesive importance. There are several and large topics about this Neanderthal. There are excesive paranoids posts about Mimetic. He does not deserve such a excesive attention. He is simply a patetic guy...

The problem named "Mimetic" has not been well managed... That's true.

In the past three or four months, our server has lost many good players... That's sad but true...

Well, I hope we can stop this decadence...

Finally I want you know I'm not defending Mimetic...,I do not believe he is clueless. I'm trying to think how to help our clan to take the control again

See you

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Topic starter Posted : 24/11/2009 4:34 am
Wave
 Wave
(@wave)
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I understand exactly what R Mad is saying. I played at the ZSZ server and Memetic was there. He was an angel.

Was very nice to me there. I know what he is doing. He is acting out Mr. Nice Guy at other servers to make us

look like we are the bad guys. I think Abb is right that the other servers are not picking up his radar.

R_Mad, I really wish you would come to Ventrilo someday.

Would love to talk to you!!

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Posted : 25/11/2009 4:04 am
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