fuck ta

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Could you explain a little bit more Vioguez...?

Are these post PMs they sent to you...?

vioguez wrote:
[ta]supersniper

Well i can tell you that if you enter that server and start kicking ass, expect to be spectated by a DOU member. It doesn't really matter if you follow all their rules and are respectful to everyone, they have a few DOU admin/members that will ban on the spot. Some people should not be givin the power to kick/ban just because someone is better then they are ( and this is mostly the case, from my experience ) Anyways i could go on and on about my experiences on their server but I'll bite my tongue now and just say.... [TA] has the up most respect for all members/players that play a fair honest game. Tapout does represent us as a clan while wearing our tag so we do/will ask that all members be respectful and fair while wearing them, but in reality we can't always control what someone does.

Sorry, but I agree w/him.

Some should not have that ability. Couple of power hungry admins/members out there. Hell, I've seen one member try to change the map because they are losing/gettting their ass handed to them. Then leave when it dont happen. Granted, they have that right to leave but dont be a pussy about it.

{DOU}.R_Mad wrote: ❓

Could you explain a little bit more Vioguez...?

Are these post PMs they sent to you...?

Looks like it came off their site ❓

the other other day i was on the server and [ta]tapout ,which changed his name to 'iptest'was assaulting me close killin the works it seems.so i still am registered with them under a different user name and e-mail .i explaned to them what tapout did to me and wondered if thats how all of there players are like ,and this is the response i got. 👿

What you are saying about TapOut is fine, but I still agree with supersniper.

Yeah - those TA guys ALWAYS play by the rules and are very respectful to admin. WTF ever.

No wonder these guys are jackasses if Ghost is leading the way.

I don't agree with Supersniper wiping his hands clean with it either. He took the easy way out versus taking at least some responsibility of oversight of his clan.

if you wear a clans tag you should respect that tag :gib:

Bison do DOU a favor go join TA

TA is saying that they are being picked on because they are good.

It seems to me they come to our server expecting that because they are good, they should be able to do and say what they want and how dare we tell them what to do when they can kick our asses.

Being good doesn't give someone the right to come here (or anywhere else) and do whatever they want.

I have spectated all of the players in question here and can say without a doubt they break rules (usually lot's of them) every time they play here. They also often respond in a snotty way when they are called on it or just ignore the admin altogether.

If there has been admin abuse where they are concerned shame on us but I am unaware of it.

mAmA

A while back I was spectating a known problem player who at the time was in that elevated structure on the pizzashop map. There's a gate there and I think a sound dampener or some other gadget. Anyhow I had changed view and was looking where this other person was looking. He had been going from window to window looking for targets out in the map. Every so often he'd turn and look back to the gate to make sure he wasn't getting bushwacked. He's almost at the other end from where the gate is, checks again and somebody's there and turning toward him so he fires and gets the frag. Legit kill. Unbeknownst to me another admin was spectating and called the guy I was watching for assault. Assault? I thought 'WTF was that?' I almost made an issue of if but I didn't want to start anything on the server or in vent so I let it drop.

You see, we've been accused of making accusations that aren't true before. And in the last couple years I've personally seen poor assumptions and now even an outright fabrication of accusations against guests. Admins have a large impact on what others think of a clan. You can think what you want and say what you want but Bison is correct....we do have one or more admins who regularly abuse their privelege.

We should probably have some stricter guidelines for admins.

When I was first made an admin I was told if you didn't actually see it happen let it go. If the player is really that bad of a guest he'll screw up again and you won't have to wait long. I will still wait till I actually see the player break a rule before saying something because I, like Cygnus, have watched players accuse other players of things they did not do and then want me to kick them for it. I say they didn't do it because I happened to be watching the accused player at the time.

If we get a bad reputation for falsley accussing guests we will have a lot fewer guests.

mAmA

Ok so if all these things happen why do none of the other admin who see it bring it up? Name names instead of beating around the bush

In all my time in the server I have never seen an admin change a map due to getting his ass kicked or any other reason, other than a poor map choice by guests when the server is full.

If this has happened why is there no post to show it?

grubb

Abberation wrote: Ok so if all these things happen why do none of the other admin who see it bring it up? Name names instead of beating around the bush

I agree with this.

Each time you make general comments, I do not know if giving me the hint or not.

I do not think I do what has been said, but it would be very motivating for me if any of you tell me if I'm correct or if I can improve.

I think you the red administrators must take the bull by the horns, and make decisions about the problems with server administrators...

The color that you carry makes you responsible for major decisions and we are always aware of you as we are earning us our place in the clan, and we want learn from you.

Judicious behave is something that can be learned, and it would not hurt if you not only give us advice but also monitoring...