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NATAN
(@natan)
Illustrious Member

I've run into some troubles with another {DOU} Member/Admin. I thought I would bring this matter out in the open.

Recently I saw {DOU}The_One spectating while not on Teamspeak. I was watching on the RSA and did ask him to get on TS3 when he was spectating. (Like /3ison told me so) He asked me if I where Tommy, when I said it was NATAN he reacted with "Ohh".

Since that day, just a couple of weeks ago, he seems to have an attitute problem towards me.

Now today when I played a game on the server a guestplayer was on (Piruska) with a totaly black skin which we consider as a cheat. I told him to change the skin.

The_One started arguing with me and told me to chill. he even started to challenge me.

Here is the conversation that developed after that:

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): I'm not chillin

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): he needs to listen

> {DOU}The_One: or he could have changed it after the map

> (Event) Do not run or you will be kicked. This is a camping server.

> {DOU}The_One: and no one else cared that he had it on

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): nope, right away

> {DOU}PUN!$HER: ns

> {DOU}The_One: beside u

> piRusk/: im wearing thunder skin

> (Event) [1] SSN8R joined

> SSN8R: hey

> (Event) [AnthChecker] : SSN8R - Windows - UT v436 D3D Renderer - Std/No Delta

> piRusk/: hey

> {DOU}PUN!$HER: hi

> {DOU}_Rad: * * * Hi mate * * *

> Jammin: hi

> {DOU}The_One: he

> {DOU}The_One: hey

> piRusk/: no skin code allow?

> piRusk/: natan?

> SSN8R: damn

> (Event) SSN8R has disconnected from the server

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): he was kicked before for that skin, so dont tell me

> {DOU}The_One: hes not the server owner

> piRusk/: oke

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): still an Admin he needs to obey to

> {DOU}_Rad: >>> Good Shot <<<

> Jammin: """ Nice Shot """

> {DOU}The_One: no one else cared that he had it on but u

> Jammin: "Thank You"

> {DOU}The_One: i have a code in right now

> piRusk/: it arkon

> {DOU}_Rad: >>> Good Shot <<<

> {DOU}The_One: so what r u gunna do

> piRusk/: you can make dark?

> Jammin: "Thank You"

> piRusk/: you can make dark skin?

> {DOU}The_One: no it gets rid of al darkness in map

> {DOU}_Rad: lol

> {DOU}_Rad: >>> Good Shot <<<

> Jammin: "Thank You"

> (Event) [1] BigDaNorm joined

> {DOU}_Rad: > > > don't shot, I'll leave > > >

> (Event) [AnthChecker] : BigDaNorm - Windows - UT v436 D3D Renderer - Alternate/GOTY

> {DOU}The_One: come on natan yell at me

> piRusk/: LMAOAOAOO

> piRusk/: LOLOLOLL

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): the no shadow is alowed on the server

> :[lol]:Billy_Gunn: weak

> piRusk/: LMAOAOAOO

> piRusk/: LMAOAOAOO

> piRusk/: LMAOAOAOO

> :[lol]:Billy_Gunn: later

> piRusk/: bye

> {DOU}The_One: but its a code

> {DOU}_Rad: <<< CYA >>>

> (Event) :[lol]:Billy_Gunn has disconnected from the server

> {DOU}The_One: whats that code again P?

> piRusk/: lol

> piRusk/: explosivepal3

> piRusk/: unrealshare.explosivepal3

> piRusk/: here

> {DOU}The_One: how i enable it

> piRusk/: google>skincode>scroll down on bottom "bNMod"

> piRusk/: gtg btw

> piRusk/: cya

> (Event) piRusk/ has disconnected from the server

> (Event) EOG: KickIdlers is shutting down.

> {DOU}PUN!$HER: gg

> {DOU}_Rad: * * * G R E A T G A M E * * *

> Jammin: gg

> {dou-r}Lestat: gg

> (Event) 120 seconds left to vote.

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): Do you have a problem with me? The One?

> (Event) {DOU}The_One has placed 9.000000 votes for DM-!!{BK}!!Laundry-V2

> (Event) {dou-r}Lestat has placed 3.000000 votes for DM-!!{BK}!!Laundry-V2

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): Do you have a problem with me? The One?

> {DOU}The_One: just lay off everyone

> (Event) 1 Minute left to vote.

> {DOU}The_One: ur always yelling at someone

> (Event) {DOU}_Rad has placed 1.000000 votes for DM-(]TKK[40_Dollar_Blowjob)

> {DOU}(-:__NATAN__:-): you got som bad attitute

> {DOU}The_One: ???? nice comeback

> (Event) BigDaNorm has placed 1.000000 votes for DM-!(HTR)-(DOU)MassiveBedrooms

> (Event) 10 seconds left to vote.

Now I’m not easily ofended, but I don’t think this is the way another Admin should react in public on the server towards me. I’m not always yelling at someone. When I spectate on the server I ask someone in a normal way to obey our server rules. I’m always very patient and friendly when I kick someone.

{DOU-M}Zing and {DOU-M}matrix where also on the server and all three had the same IP. If {DOU}The_One wants to show of for the mini’s he’s doing that to the wrong person this time.

I am a well respected Clan Member, Admin and Recruitment Officer. I sure don’t need this crap towards me !

Frankly I am a bit pissed off at the moment.

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Topic starter Posted : 24/08/2011 10:19 pm
{DOU}Cygnus
(@doucygnus)
Illustrious Member

First, The_One is an Admin? I don't recall that but maybe I'm forgetful.

Second, I recall some attitude and/or behavioral issues with him before.

IMO, not a good candidate for an Admin.

Third, if he's an Admin, then his buddy, AK47 also potentially has that very access. It may also very well be who Natan was dealing with. Even more reason not to have him as an Admin.

And I fully agree with Natan's sentiments here. The_One tried to make him look like the bad guy on our server which is something an Admin should never do to another. If there's a conflict, ALWAYS deal with it on the security forum. NO WHERE ELSE.

I would suggest revoking The_One's Admin status and change the passwords to spectate and Admin.

The soapbox is now free for the next person....

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Posted : 24/08/2011 10:36 pm
(@isabella)
Famed Member

As I know, The_One is not an Admin...

On the other hand, despite this, I fully support NATAN in this case...

I agree with Cyg respect the risks involved if The_One and/or JK47 have access to the RSA

Natan I believe that you have the full support of the people responsible here in the clan, otherwise you would not be recruiting officer, so feel free to use your authority in this events...

If I would have had that discussion with The_One probably I would kicked him to precipitate the issue over here...

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Posted : 24/08/2011 11:06 pm
{DOU}VioGueZ
(@douvioguez)
Noble Member

i am not an admin ,but i have some thing to say about that,how do we know that they are all in one room and one is spectating to give out player positions,that is some very shady ass shit.

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Posted : 25/08/2011 12:24 am
(@nuker)
Prominent Member

NUKER Here,

NATAN is always RESPECTFUL, even when dealing with the rudest of players. I have NEVER witnessed him yelling at anyone while dealing any rule breaker. I give my full support to NATAN's judgment. If anyone has ADMIN passwords they should be changed at once and if that person is giving those codes to players outside Clan DOU they too should be outside Clan DOU!!!

NUKER

:minigun:

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Posted : 25/08/2011 12:29 am
(@grubb-industries)
Noble Member

It it possible {DOU}The_One has the password to spectate?

Grubb

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Posted : 25/08/2011 12:39 am
Otis_Firefly
(@otis_firefly)
Noble Member

Kids SHOULD NOT HAVE ADMIN CREDENTIALS if we are going to run a mature server.

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Posted : 25/08/2011 1:03 am
 Evil
(@evil)
Noble Member

He isn't an admin, he just has the spectator password. At one time that wasn't as guarded as it is now.

He shouldn't be talking crap back to you like that though.

Also when did we decide that dark skins are cheats? Many claim our clan skin is. As I said before who cares, if you don't have that skin from downloading it somewhere you won't see it. I don't see jasmine's skin or even the assassin skin or any of the other goofy shit people use. Only what I downloaded and have gotten off our server.

Every time I go play on TKK which hasn't happened for a long time I have to delete a bunch of crap skin textures that I don't want to see.

Edit:

Ok I see that it was a mod not a skin, so it's different. As a command I assume then it forces everyone to see it looking dark or whatever, unlike a skin? That would suck ass, I would call that bad.

___-SM-___

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Posted : 25/08/2011 4:07 am
(@grubb-industries)
Noble Member

Yes, this is not a skin. It is a skin hack that makes you black as the ace of spades, no color at all, you can also change it in game to any color you want. if you in a green texture you can make your skin green. including your face and gun. you cannot be seen.

The other issue is we suspect The_One may have been spectating and telling JK47 and or Nasty where players were hiding.

If this is the case it does not make us look very good.

Grubb

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Posted : 25/08/2011 4:28 am
(@abberation)
Noble Member

Im all for black skins but that mod sounds like bullshit. Its not something ACE picks up it seems.

As for the One that is very disrespectful of him. Sounds like JK talking to me though

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Posted : 25/08/2011 5:24 am
Tommy
(@tommy)
Member Admin

I don't think he has access to RSA, just the ability to spectate, it is possible.

We do not have a policy on skins as far as I remember. If there is a skin we would like to ban from play, I can add it to vahalla avatar.

This whole mess sounded to me to be mostly a battle of ego's. However, I will ask Dylan to have him STFU.

T

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Posted : 25/08/2011 6:44 pm
NATAN
(@natan)
Illustrious Member

Tommy wrote:
This whole mess sounded to me to be mostly a battle of ego's. However, I will ask Dylan to have him STFU.

T

Has nothing to do with an ego, not from my side anyway. I just want to get treated with respect like I respect others. I didn’t start the fire here.

I saw him spectate for a few maps in a row, so thats why I thought he was an Admin. Now I’m also thinking he has just catched the spectate password somehow. I didn’t know much about his backgrond. Now I know it’s just a kid. I didn’t want to kick for what I thought was an Admin, but next time he is going to behave like this I will kick him for sure !

Btw no need to change the spectating password imo. If he isn’t an admin he hasn’t the right to spectate I guess, so if I see him spectate again next time I will kick him with all pleasure….

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Topic starter Posted : 25/08/2011 11:12 pm
(@isabella)
Famed Member

Who will put JK47 STFU, if he is involved in this?

:nonono: :nonono:

T. You should change the damn spectate password and give it only to adms to do our work properly without this stupids interferences....

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Posted : 26/08/2011 12:15 am
.::/3I§ON::.
(@3ion)
Member Admin

{DOU}.R_Mad wrote: Who will put JK47 STFU, if he is involved in this?

:nonono: :nonono:

T. You should change the damn spectate password and give it only to adms to do our work properly without this stupids interferences....

Spectate was meant for all {DOU} not just Admins.

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Posted : 26/08/2011 4:12 am
.::/3I§ON::.
(@3ion)
Member Admin

".::/3I§ON wrote:

Spectate was meant for all {DOU} not just Admins.

BUT ❗ It is ONLY to be used for recruites and people metioned in the security section (aka, trouble makers) and you must/should be in/on TS while spectating.

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Posted : 26/08/2011 4:18 am
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