I feel duty bound to write this for the good of our clan/family
on the server and to other dou members Isabella/r.mad is promoteing her server to other clan members saying she doent want anyone to know yet keep it quiet and she will be emailing players/members to let them know myself in the room avenger and rad in my mind if she cared about the clan she would not of left I have been mulling this over the past few knights since I read it in the room and feel compled to write this now rather than days weeks or months from now wishing I had said something earlier she is in my opinion out to cause trouble for dou it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the barrel god bless jacobite
Thanks for sharing this concern with your fellow DOU clan members.
She has been warned before not to advertise her own server and as a former member she is aware of the rules about advertising for other than DOU servers.
It will lead to a total ban.
There have been rumours about this floating around for a while and now its fact, the issue needs to be dealt with, we are struggling for members as it is without disgruntled ex members trying to take our traffic and potential members. She should know better. Its disrespectful to the clan she claims she loves and cares for so much. I wonder if this is why she is on every night lately? To round up the players for her own server?.
Mr_head wrote: There have been rumours about this floating around for a while and now its fact, the issue needs to be dealt with, we are struggling for members as it is without disgruntled ex members trying to take our traffic and potential members. She should know better. Its disrespectful to the clan she claims she loves and cares for so much. I wonder if this is why she is on every night lately? To round up the players for her own server?.
I played on her server a few times. IMO it needs much work and improvement. I don't think her server could come up to the DOU server. For me our server has an inimitable ambiance of the game. And thus many players (including Isabella) like to play here. Isabella has her own grievance, but I would find nothing serious in it.
Rad wrote: [quote=Mr_head]There have been rumours about this floating around for a while and now its fact, the issue needs to be dealt with, we are struggling for members as it is without disgruntled ex members trying to take our traffic and potential members. She should know better. Its disrespectful to the clan she claims she loves and cares for so much. I wonder if this is why she is on every night lately? To round up the players for her own server?.
I played on her server a few times. IMO it needs much work and improvement. I don't think her server could come up to the DOU server. For me our server has an inimitable ambiance of the game. And thus many players (including Isabella) like to play here. Isabella has her own grievance, but I would find nothing serious in it.
The point isn't if her server is a threath for DOU, but that she is spamming on our server. It's against DOU policy and as a former DOU admin she is aware of it. I like Isabella a lot, but if I catch her spamming our server the only step I can take is to ban her IP immediately.
If she wants to lure players away from game its a big NO. She knows she can put up a post on our forum to invite people to take a look at her server if she wants to, just like other clans every so often do.
jacobite wrote: I feel duty bound to write this for the good of our clan/family
on the server and to other dou members Isabella/r.mad is promoteing her server to other clan members saying she doent want anyone to know yet keep it quiet and she will be emailing players/members to let them know myself in the room avenger and rad in my mind
in my defense (and to save her ass apparently)....I ASKED HER to give me the ip address to her server while we were both on a map together. She didn't not do this on her own accord. I gess in a way you can say I encouraged her to do it. So if you feel the need to punish someone cause a rule was broken....then punish me. This form is the only way I have to get in contacted with her other than her and I being on a map at the same time. But that will change when I'm done writing this cause I will give her my personal email address so I won't get her response though the form.
I understand where you guys are coming from about spamming and I'm the last person in the family to cause trouble or to start any shit. So if I have broken any rules by asking her then I'm sorry. I didn't know. I will go back and read the rules again. It's not like I'm going to leave the clan or anything, but just before she left, I gave her pictures of my dog Charlie to put up in the graveyard and she said that because she was leaving she could no longer do this and that she forwarded everything I gave her to tommy (I think). In any case, whoever was suppose to do it STILL hasn't done it yet, and i STILL feel hurt by it. How long do I have to be a member before he (Charlie) gets a remembrances in the grave yard?
The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance, but rather the illusion of knowledge.
We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us.
Avenger wrote: [quote=jacobite]I feel duty bound to write this for the good of our clan/family
on the server and to other dou members Isabella/r.mad is promoteing her server to other clan members saying she doent want anyone to know yet keep it quiet and she will be emailing players/members to let them know myself in the room avenger and rad in my mind
in my defense (and to save her ass apparently)....I ASKED HER to give me the ip address to her server while we were both on a map together. She didn't not do this on her own accord. I gess in a way you can say I encouraged her to do it. So if you feel the need to punish someone cause a rule was broken....then punish me. This form is the only way I have to get in contacted with her other than her and I being on a map at the same time. But that will change when I'm done writing this cause I will give her my personal email address so I won't get her response though the form.
I understand where you guys are coming from about spamming and I'm the last person in the family to cause trouble or to start any shit. So if I have broken any rules by asking her then I'm sorry. I didn't know. I will go back and read the rules again. It's not like I'm going to leave the clan or anything, but just before she left, I gave her pictures of my dog Charlie to put up in the graveyard and she said that because she was leaving she could no longer do this and that she forwarded everything I gave her to tommy (I think). In any case, whoever was suppose to do it STILL hasn't done it yet, and i STILL feel hurt by it. How long do I have to be a member before he (Charlie) gets a remembrances in the grave yard?
Thats all very well that you asked her for the ip but the conversation must have come up about her server for it to get that far as to ask for the ip. The fact remains that she should not have been spamming her server on ours at all, especialy seeing as how she is a ex member, she should know better. You when your parents said to you, im not mad, just dissapointed...........
ok first off she's an ex member but also ex admin she does know better, you asking for the ip was not a problem but she should of said she would pm you on the forum, she has access to it she post's enough and same goes for you two communicating nothing wrong with sending pms to each other but if you want to give her your email that's your right too. As for the map why she told you it was now someone elses problem as such i have no idea as she was the one doing the map and she backed out of it sending all the files to tommy i guess was her way of making it someone elses problem. i only know one other member that makes maps in the clan and that aint tommy....
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I think she did say she would pm me I cant remember.
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We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us.
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Mr_head wrote: Thats all very well that you asked her for the ip but the conversation must have come up about her server for it to get that far as to ask for the ip. The fact remains that she should not have been spamming her server on ours at all, especialy seeing as how she is a ex member, she should know better. You when your parents said to you, im not mad, just dissapointed...........
I think it got started by me asking her. and for that i'm sorry 🙁
Aug 16th
5;30 pm cst
there was no conversation involved. I saw her on line when eather she came on or I did and I though "oh Isabella on line I better ask her about her new ip" Now ......I'm sorry that though entered my heat let alone saying anything and trust me , it is a mistake I will never make again.
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The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance, but rather the illusion of knowledge.
We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us.
Rmad broke no rule. She was not promoting her server.
Avenger is a member of the clan and asked her for the IP.
If anyone broke a rule it was Avenger. If somebody still wants to play the asshole and get their pound of flesh she'll answer for it.
As far as that goes I'll answer with her because I recall telling her to ask Rmad for it. The idea it constituted a rule breach didn't cross my mind because no one was trying to steer players to her server.
People need to research what they're posting and make sure what they're talking about before getting stupid shit like this started on the forum.
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{DOU}Cygnus wrote: Rmad broke no rule. She was not promoting her server.
Avenger is a member of the clan and asked her for the IP.
If anyone broke a rule it was Avenger. If somebody still wants to play the asshole and get their pound of flesh she'll answer for it.
As far as that goes I'll answer with her because I recall telling her to ask Rmad for it. The idea it constituted a rule breach didn't cross my mind because no one was trying to steer players to her server.
People need to research what they're posting and make sure what they're talking about before getting stupid shit like this started on the forum.
for a limited time........ one pound of flesh is half price 😆 ......well I though it was funny.
The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance, but rather the illusion of knowledge.
We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us.
{DOU}Cygnus wrote: Rmad broke no rule. She was not promoting her server.
Avenger is a member of the clan and asked her for the IP.
If anyone broke a rule it was Avenger. If somebody still wants to play the asshole and get their pound of flesh she'll answer for it.
As far as that goes I'll answer with her because I recall telling her to ask Rmad for it. The idea it constituted a rule breach didn't cross my mind because no one was trying to steer players to her server.
People need to research what they're posting and make sure what they're talking about before getting stupid shit like this started on the forum.
Rmad has lured away players before, without any members being involved.
She lured away at least 4 or 5 players when she was in game on the DOU server earlier this year.
Proof copied by me from the RSA and I've discussed this with other headadmins. This has put her at least in a bad daylight.
- However this recent thread seems to be a case of bad judgement by Jacobite, I still think he has done good in bringing it to our attention...
NATAN wrote: [quote={DOU}Cygnus]Rmad broke no rule. She was not promoting her server.
Avenger is a member of the clan and asked her for the IP.
If anyone broke a rule it was Avenger. If somebody still wants to play the asshole and get their pound of flesh she'll answer for it.
As far as that goes I'll answer with her because I recall telling her to ask Rmad for it. The idea it constituted a rule breach didn't cross my mind because no one was trying to steer players to her server.
People need to research what they're posting and make sure what they're talking about before getting stupid shit like this started on the forum.
Rmad has lured away players before, without any members being involved.
She lured away at least 4 or 5 players when she was in game on the DOU server earlier this year.
Proof copied by me from the RSA and I've discussed this with other headadmins. This has put her at least in a bad daylight.
- However this recent thread seems to be a case of bad judgement by Jacobite, I still think he has done good in bringing it to our attention...
the recent thread should have never happened because of bad judgement. but ok I I know what I have to do then. and it will go into effect right away.
and for the record.....she has not contacted me so I hope everyone is ok with that. peace 😐
The greatest obstacle to discovering the shape of the earth, the continents, and the oceans was not ignorance, but rather the illusion of knowledge.
We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves after a journey that no one can take for us.
{DOU}Cygnus wrote: Rmad broke no rule. She was not promoting her server.
Avenger is a member of the clan and asked her for the IP.
If anyone broke a rule it was Avenger. If somebody still wants to play the asshole and get their pound of flesh she'll answer for it.
As far as that goes I'll answer with her because I recall telling her to ask Rmad for it. The idea it constituted a rule breach didn't cross my mind because no one was trying to steer players to her server.
People need to research what they're posting and make sure what they're talking about before getting stupid shit like this started on the forum.
il play the asshole, as this is not the first time R-mad has done this as natan has pointed out. no-one here blamed avenger for anything all that was said was Rmad should have known better and should have made a forum post! So dont try and twist this shit round. She knows better, end of.