O.K. people, i'll get into the specifics of this later, for now I need the following.
When a splayer named "Stoopid" is on the server I need to know if you lag out at all, especially if you are trying to scope in on him or otherwise battle him (or even if he is just in your line of sight or near it).
I am still learning about this, but please people, watch for this.
T
Isnt Stoopid one of dumbasses, I mean dukes aliases?
Yes...and anybody who is sympathetic to him please do not tip him off to this. It is important in general that we identify this hack.
T
It is important that we identify this hack because until last night I did not even know it existed and other people may use it in the future (or may have in the past).
I will try to explain what is going on as best I can, but be aware this is not my area of expertise so I am still trying to understand some of it myself.
Those of us with lesser video cards will especially understand and be sensitive to this.
First, the symptoms. You know how some maps are just laggy compared to others. In some maps you just plain can't even move around at all they are so laggy? Charger can explain this better than me but it has to do with complex brushes and textures and elements, etc. in the map. In your line of sight is something that is very complex for your video card to draw, too complex for older video cards. They can't draw th element fast enough on the screen and you lag waiting for it to draw. Every time you move even a hair in the game, everything has to be re-drawn by the card, so if it is slow in doing so you will lag out.
Now, imagine applying that principle of lag to a hack / cheat. Imagine wearing a skin that doesn't affect you (no drawing as this is a first person shooter so you don't see your skin while playing) but affects everyone else in the game. Suppose the map isn't laggy by itself. But every time a person sees the skin they lag up to a crawl. You might not even see the person if they are at a distance and you don't know they are there, but you will lag up just the same.
Well, this is what he is doing. It is the same principle but it is actually a different delivery system. I guess instead of a complex draw, the skin is causing his connection speed to constantly change, and this is causing the lag. I don't pretend to understand it, but it is what is happening.
The most important thing to note here is that it is definitely a hack / cheat we are addressing here. To say that more bluntly, duke / stoopid is definitely cheating on our servers.
We need to address this quietly for now for 2 reasons. First, we need solid in print proof before we can do anything or risk him being able to say there was no proof and making us look bad. Also, we need to be able to solidly identify this cheat so we can add protection against it to our servers. If he bails too soon we may lose the opportunity to get all the information that we need.
The first step is for me to scour the logs and see what I can figure out from there. It probably won't have enough information on it's own. The reason is that it is a hacked skin. So the logs will just mention a normal skin. But I will identify the skin and then try to checksum it to get the proof I need. It is a delicate thing, and any forewarning could tip him off into not using it. So, yes, I want to protect against it, and yes, I want to bust the cheater.
I know he messages GZ in MSN all the time. So please GZ, mention nothing of this at all. Act like you never saw this thread. Even if he probes you, play dumb. He used to message me in MSN all the time too, but since the clan thing went down he doesn't any more.
More on this as I further educate myself.
Tommy
I just saw Stoopid on the sniper server with UTcheck and I entered the game and I immediately had a 340 ping !... And the lag didn't allow me to hit even a bot !!! All my bullets impacts were sooooooo late !!!!
The guy Stoopid had a 107 ping and didn't seem to have any personal problem !
His IP : 68.149.34.251 (don't know if it's useful) 🙄
hmmm i had this problem maybe 3 weeks ago but thought it was the map or my system just playing up makes a little more sense now and will watch out for it happening.
Darkm
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I've basically lost contact with duke(aka. stoopid)...
No e-mail... and no hi in MSN messenger...
If he is cheating I wouldn't doubt it but why would he stop talking to me???
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
Any more word on laggy skins???
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
GRouND ZeRo wrote: Any more word on laggy skins???
Fn GZ revives a 4 year old thread! Way to go, I wish I had a prize for this!!!
T
Tommy wrote: [quote=GRouND ZeRo]Any more word on laggy skins???
Fn GZ revives a 4 year old thread! Way to go, I wish I had a prize for this!!!
T
Consider the source 😆
You rock GZ !
mAmA
Well... considering that the internet is getting faster... but why are we getting lagged??? and from what??? do we need to run any trace route scans to see if that is the problem or is there people running arround with Ping Hacks???
Imagine people running through your line of fire to find out they don't get hit at all!
Consider what hardware that you are running with... I tried a 16 Meg NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 AGP 4X and it was Laggy.
(Had a sit-down -BENCHED- My Motherboard with a toothbrush to clean the dustCRAP out to get my ATI running again!)
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
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At the time the post was created, it was because Duke (remember him???) was running a skin hack that caused people to instantly lag when they had him on screen.
T
Yeah, I remember what that was all about. Luckily I don't believe it ever caught on.
I'd like to know how much time GZ spends digging through 3 or 4 year-old posts 😈
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