Possible hack?

Yeah, I was tucked away in a dark spot up high in the side of a building and watched [DMF] THANE start to teleport across the map. He was teleporting in the air (so fast you could barely see him doing it), never touching the ground and I was tracking him with my scope waiting for him to stop so I could frag him. His path took him near my position and as he was passing me, high in the air, he fragged me. How he could even see me while he was teleporting that fast I have no idea. But how he shot me while in mid air and mid teleport is even more perplexing.

Welps, before we call them cheaters lets figure out how they did it first. Maybe they are just that good?

And I am not preaching, I also think they are cheaters, but for something else i'll get into later.

Seriously, lets try to figure out how it was done. It seems impossible to me too so maybe it is a cheat. Or maybe it is a skill we need to learn.

Point is I don't wanna call them cheaters if they aren't, but I do wanna nail them if they are.

I'll ask around, especially with regard to the transponder abilities, I would hope you guys dig into this too.

Then I will tell you why I consider them cheaters.

T

Well, if nothing else, you're not supposed to Run N' Gun.

I found this on a UT forum where they were discussing fast translocating. I understand the concept, but not sure if I know how to actually "make an alias"?

The fastest way to use the TL is to make an alias which will use the OnRelease command. Pressing a key will throw the TL and releasing that key will teleport.

Next, you just need to bind this alias to a key: Q=TL

Edit: Reading further, I see this is called a key-bind, which is kinda a grey area so far as cheating goes.

Here is some reading about it.

http://myunreal.com/showthread.php?t=54026&highlight=translocate

I do know how to make key binds. I use a few for saying stuff as my typing skills suck BIG TIME. You have probably seen them when I forget to push the T button in a game and just start typing.

The only game play bind I use is a stay crouched bind, I got tired of having a sore finger (leave it alone...lol) from pushing the duck button all the time.

I knew people were using a translocator bind but until today could not figure out one that worked.

We as a group need to find what we want to call unfair on our server and post it in the rules. It would be hard to police as I don't think we could prove anything. But if posted we could let the suspect know and ask them not to use them here. I think that most people would abide by our rules and the ones that will not we do not need here anyway.

As this is in the clan only section I will say these kind of binds are most likley why we got "schooled" in the tourney. Also that although I do not feel that most of them are fair, when in Rome.....a level playing field might be nice.

Alot of people I knew played with a Nostromo game pad, on which you can set key binds very easily. You use it with your off-mouse hand instead of the keyboard. The one I had was good there is a newer one out now. I had one key when pushed made me jump up flip backwards land facing the opposite direction in a crouch half zoomed in.

This kind of stuff is out there and being used. I don't like it but it is there.

That is also why I do not play on some servers where I know it is being used. I feel (personally) that this is why some of the clans out there out class most in game play.

I don't know if these things are cheats, but for me its a moral kind if thing.

Hi all aftre reading the info on the link sent by Chicken, I'd like to agree with many of the writers in that forum If people are not skilled enough to play with out keybinds designed to perfectly perform a move or help them to win a game where is the sportsmanship they are obviously not skilled enough to play with out them. I play on an fairly old pc untill my new one is finished and the other day I was pinging at 700, I was still able to pull off many teleport moves and shoot several players in the head. I even think I won one or two games with my ping that high I personally do not think that keybinding is the best way to show how good you are in a game all it does is show how good you can set up your keys LOL. I will admit to using a few keybinds. These are best weapon, ie. sniper rifle and translocator as I hate scrolling to find weapons. I also have my team speak, defend the base Etc. set on my keys when playing CTF. This is my opinion I hope it helps in the what looks set to be an ongoing discussion. 😈

So I spent some time this morning researching the translocator keybind thing. Very easy to set these keybinds. I now have the Number 1 key on my keyboard set as a translocator toggle key. Press down it throws and release and you're transported.

I guess it takes practice, but so far it doesn't seem to be that much help. The thing is, you want to press and release fast, but if you do, you don't throw the "puck" far enough and you don't make forward progress very fast. Or you tap the key too fast and the game simply can't keep up and it quits throwing the puck out altogether, so you have to pause for a second and start again.

So it seems to be all in the timing. Having said that, while researching this particular keybind, I also read where others have been able to modify the translocator to throw farther as well as more quietly. Not sure if those particular mods would be caught as cheats in the server or not though.

If anyone wants to play with this keybind, let me know and I can tell you how to set it. Takes just a couple minutes to do.

I tried it too and I noticed the same things you said. Especially the second observation you did : it can't do very fast without giving up.

I tried it on the X key but i think it would be better on a key for my right hand (thumb) as you need to go backwards while you teleport very high.

If you know how to do better, let us know !

Yes I have seen my fair share of people running arround with the teleporter.... I tried shooting theese people without success.... I find that I can get to most places using it only twice in a row... if there was a need to use the teleporter more than twice in a row than why use it???

Should there be a MOD to deter people from excessively using the teleporter??? I would say YES! especially if people are using it to "RUN AND GUN" but some people are just using it to get out of the open where they end up spawning...

I don't know why my gun changes if I try to use the teleporter thingy more than 3 times??? anyone else have this problem???

GRouND ZeRo wrote: Yes I have seen my fair share of people running arround with the teleporter.... I tried shooting theese people without success.... I find that I can get to most places using it only twice in a row... if there was a need to use the teleporter more than twice in a row than why use it???

Should there be a MOD to deter people from excessively using the teleporter??? I would say YES! especially if people are using it to "RUN AND GUN" but some people are just using it to get out of the open where they end up spawning...

I don't know why my gun changes if I try to use the teleporter thingy more than 3 times??? anyone else have this problem???

I use my wheel on the mouse for scroll=weapon change and depressing it for secondary fire.

I had an IBM wheelmouse that I was pretty comfortable with until I cooked it with a dumped fresh cup of coffee. Wal Mart no longer carried that brand and I replaced it with a logitech version.

I'm now having problems like you describe because the logitech wheel is more recessed than the IBM and tends to scroll when you depress it. Kinda sucks on multiple jumps.

-jb

)(er)(es wrote: Those DMF guys had some unusual 'talents' when they were on our server last night.

1) I was in totally darkened deep recess and one of them dropped right in front of me, firing.

2) Never seen anybody before do muliple teleports across rooftops w/o ever seeing them materialize. Only seen the translocator.

3) Chicken got picked off by one of them while they were doing their teleport trick. Our guns are not supposed to be able to hit anything unless you're crouching or standing still on the ground.

-Is it just me, or do some of those guys seem too "talented")?

-jb

Speaking of the DMF guys. They owe us a rematch and info on that will be coming soon. As we remember from last time if we hunkered down we did well. If someone DOESNT want a DMF rematch, speak your peace here.

Seeing how no one objected here, I am going to get a hold of Thane and get this going. I will tell him that that one map, can't remember the name, the dark one, wont be allowed. Key binds will also be thrown in as not excepted for good measure 😛

I'm posting to this thread a little bit late, but I find it interesting. I was impressed with DMF's translocator skills the first time I played them. I've seen others use the TL the same way. I thought that UT forced some delay between tosses, so that even with a key bind you will materialize briefly. Not materializing at all suggests a cheat to me, but I certainly could be wrong.

Toons wrote: I'm posting to this thread a little bit late, but I find it interesting. I was impressed with DMF's translocator skills the first time I played them. I've seen others use the TL the same way. I thought that UT forced some delay between tosses, so that even with a key bind you will materialize briefly. Not materializing at all suggests a cheat to me, but I certainly could be wrong.

Could there be a mod created to limit the use of the translocator like a battery power so yuo can use it a number of times after each spawn because you only need to use it to get yourself out of the open and into a good spot...