rage an frustration

The problem we have here is actualy a luxury problem.

There are a lot of servers at the moment that have no troubles at all with players. The reason is that they have no players on their server.

I personaly think that it’s near to impossible to have a server where non of the players are breaking any of the rules every now and then.

We do have players who we can devide in different types:

1. We have a succesfull server. It will atrack new players who don’t have any knowledge of the sniper rules. In time they will learn how to play. Till then, warn them a few times (3) and kick them. Let them come back the next map and give them another chance.

2. We will have the stuborn ones who don’t care at all on what server they are playing or what the rules are which the game is played by. Kick them. Most of them will also be mouthly.

3. The well known guests that come here for years. Most of the time they wont give any problems. If they make a mistake they will say sorry and it’s over. If they’ll have to say sorry over and over again we will watch them more closely to see what’s going on.

4. The already banned and KOS players. Kick/Ban them as usual.

5. The one who dont have a clue or don’t play at all. The clueless ones can be learned to follow the rules. If not, kick them. The ones that don’t seem to play at all I do only kick when there’s a TDM is going on and ruïne the score of their team mates by not playing. When in a normal DM, I consider them just as practice targets.

6. The freestyle players that have difficulties with standard camping. Warn them. Kick them.

There will be loads I have forgot in this list, but I think these are the most comon ones.

If players are being a pain we should kick them more easily. Don’t wait to long. Warn them and kick them if they repeat to break the rules. Especialy on a crowded server we should kick more easily. That way we will give a signal to the ones that are playing by the rules and show them that we see what is going on and deal with it quickly.

I’m also in favor to make more long time members an Admin. I know we have a lot of Admins but they’re not all that active anymore. At the moment I can see only five admins around who are policing the server frequently. That’s not enough to deal with the problem players we seem to have on the server recently.

Considering the time that they spend on the server I would like to see Rad, Grasshopper and Vioguez as good candidates to get an Admin status.

I am however aware of the fact that we should not police the server to death. We will all have to be aware of that. I’d rather be playing on our server with some rule breakers then with no players at all. Please also consider the fact that sometimes it may look like the server is full of players who are misbehaving, but when spectating as an Admin the real view can be a Total different one then you might experience as a player in game.

I learned that perfection is an enemy of the good things...

Also I learned that during planification you must think and meditate, but during action time, like at war, you must be pragmatic and fast.

In my opinion, most of time, all of us including me, are not pragmatic and fast.

So, in this topic I opened, I would like to express I'm very concerned respect our members are coming frustrated, dissapointed and full of rage, due things we can and must solve.

My concern it's because I believe that with the same speed as our clan is filling with new members, there are others who are going to go away bored with what happens...

It is easy for me, and for other active members (Natan, Cyg, Grubb, Rad, Grass, Nuker, Otis, and others I forget (sorry), to differentiate between noob players from assholes or troublemakers...

I believe we need be patient with noobs... that's OK

But we need to be relentless with the other shit, banning them inmediatly, without any votation or useless postings...

If we do a mistake, we can fix it easily and apologize if neccesary, but I believe this way will be better for our server, our guests and us....

I'm very patient with new players and frecuently I loose my play time teaching them the rules, but in the other hand I'm fully decided, from now on, to ban all kind of troublemakers I see....

Tonight 3 players caused havoc in the server in pizza shop,

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Devil_Child

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They chased away at least 6 players off the server.

There were accusations of cheating, running assault etc.

There were far to many players out of control for one admin to handle.

Grubb

Why not kick them one by one as a warning to behave? I'll be there this saturday evening to support. Kicking those well known players for one map should bring back some peace in the game. If they want to know why they were kick they should put up a post on the complaint department.

Btw, I know it's almost impossible sometimes to Admin a fully crowded server. You did a good job by kicking those players which you have posted on the security issues of the forum.

To be honest here - the server just isn't any fun to play on anymore. Everytime I've gotten on in the past few weeks it's just plain chaos. Our indecision to continually give these people chance after chance after chance after chance has turned what used to be a great place to spend a few hours a week into something I personally would rather avoid. This has been coming on for months - our security issues section is overloaded with BS that we should have taken care of from the beginning.

It's really too bad - I used to love the game and the clan.

I agree it's been pretty bad of late. I'm going to treat warnings as being cumulative. If the same player gets one two weeks ago then last week I'll boot him tomorrow if I see it again.

Alot of these problem people think they'll get warnings for the same shit every match and they'll push it every time.

Yep, Time to take it back.

I'll be around alot more after for awhile after I get done with the surgery.

I agree with Cygnus, If you have 5 or 6 players to watch and warn the game is over before you can give all of the sufficient warning to kick.

other servers I have played on including COD4 do not warn they just kick.

grubb

Otis_Firefly wrote: To be honest here - the server just isn't any fun to play on anymore. Everytime I've gotten on in the past few weeks it's just plain chaos. Our indecision to continually give these people chance after chance after chance after chance has turned what used to be a great place to spend a few hours a week into something I personally would rather avoid. This has been coming on for months - our security issues section is overloaded with BS that we should have taken care of from the beginning.

It's really too bad - I used to love the game and the clan.

yep 🙁

Sadly, but I agree with you all.

I repeat my dictum from other post:

... I think to myself, what would it be if every DOU member had possibility to kick out such a "fuck face faggot" (how nicely called it Vio). Knowing our members may I expect that such a privilege wouldn't be to overused.

NUKER Here,

I've been gone a few days but I can't agree with CYG, GRUBB, R_MAD, RAD & especially VIOGUEZ as he has had the worst time of it lately. Every freaking time he joins the server he gets assaulted or close killed or f#%@$* with by 1 or another of the aholes we give too many warnings too. CYG if you don't tell me otherwise I too am gonna treat known rule breakers as they have cumulative warnings.

That is a GREAT idea!!!

Thanks

NUKER

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