Recent issues

Just to cut it short.

As it is now:

*We give the Problem player 3 warnings

*After the 3 warnings… into a 30 day ban

*After the 30 day ban… they need to come to the forum and ask for the privilege to play on the server with appropriate apologies. If not: The permanent ban (may become just a KOS)

What changes:

*When a thread reaches the 3 post warning any admin should bring it to the attention of all admins.

*The threads need to be kept cleaner.

I think that this is the most cutting edge suggestion I have seen in dealing with this issue since I've been with the clan. I fully support it.

I do have one question - these three posts - is there a time limit to these three posts. Meaning if I post a thread today abut playerX having been booted from the server for reasons A, B, C and then another admin adds to this post a month later about the same player having to be booted for the same reasons - and then the third post comes two months later - will playerX still be held to the 30 day ban? Given that the time between these posts playerX was behaving him/herself in the server. Obviously if these three posts were to occur within the same week or two - it is obvious that the 30 day temp ban should be enforced because playerX has not taken heed of said warnings. But what if said behavior is sporadic? I suggest that three posts are three posts no matter what so as not to get us all tangled up in some gray area. Perhaps once the second offense occurs - when the third warnings are being issued a quick - "playerX, please stop assaulting. If you are kicked today you will be banned for 30 days". That would mean that we will need to have a quick reference thread where players names/IP's are displayed with their current kick score. That might be a lot of work for someone. Or - once the third kick was issued it would be the responsibility of all the admins to remain diligent in keeping themselves current for when they see playerX on the server again letting them know that their third offense has been recorded and that they need to visit our forum as a 30 day ban has been issued.

Thoughts?

Secondly - we need to take care in the topic titles. If playerX uses alternate characters in their name eg; @, /, ), ~ ect should we post names as seen on the server or the names as they would be pronounced? I propose that we post the name as it would be pronounced only - and anytime we have to kick any player we first do a general search of that name on our forum so that we keep the posts topic specific and not have one post for example: [)3v1L (as seen on server) and one for Devil (properly pronounced). We only have the topic as "Devil" to keep the information precise and cohesive.

My 2 cents.

Thank you Darkmatter for giving this topic your valuable time and energy. I hope this creates a better gaming experience for our welcomed guests as well as members of our clan.

Every time we’ll try to simplify the rules they appear much more difficult than we realize, so it seems. Every rule raises his own questions. The trick here is to simplify them as much as possible without seeing every angle of the problem.

The questions by Otis are very legit, but also a part of the problem. Let’s make them as clear as possible.

About the time period:

3 warnings are 3 warnings. Let’s not spend an amount of time about the periods of the warnings, because also the time limit will raise questions in its own way. Let’s just say 3 warnings is a 30 day ban. No time periods included.

Player names:

They should be linked to their IP’s as much as possible.

There will be other players with the same name… Like Devil, but they also could be the same player when added different characters in the name as in [)3v1L. So the IP is the most important imo. It also solves the problem with using different names, even as we see with players who share the same IP. If ‘Tapout’ and ‘Underdog’ for example share the same IP then treat them as one person who are responsible for the use of that IP. We are not the ones who need to sort this out. Let them sort it out themselves. Well, so far my contribution…

**We also need to add these new rules into our Server Rules thread so that this information is public knowledge**

No one can say I didn't know.

Otis_Firefly wrote: I think that this is the most cutting edge suggestion I have seen in dealing with this issue since I've been with the clan. I fully support it.

I do have one question - these three posts - is there a time limit to these three posts. Meaning if I post a thread today abut playerX having been booted from the server for reasons A, B, C and then another admin adds to this post a month later about the same player having to be booted for the same reasons - and then the third post comes two months later - will playerX still be held to the 30 day ban? Given that the time between these posts playerX was behaving him/herself in the server. Obviously if these three posts were to occur within the same week or two - it is obvious that the 30 day temp ban should be enforced because playerX has not taken heed of said warnings. But what if said behavior is sporadic? I suggest that three posts are three posts no matter what so as not to get us all tangled up in some gray area. Perhaps once the second offense occurs - when the third warnings are being issued a quick - "playerX, please stop assaulting. If you are kicked today you will be banned for 30 days". That would mean that we will need to have a quick reference thread where players names/IP's are displayed with their current kick score. That might be a lot of work for someone. Or - once the third kick was issued it would be the responsibility of all the admins to remain diligent in keeping themselves current for when they see playerX on the server again letting them know that their third offense has been recorded and that they need to visit our forum as a 30 day ban has been issued.

Thoughts?

Secondly - we need to take care in the topic titles. If playerX uses alternate characters in their name eg; @, /, ), ~ ect should we post names as seen on the server or the names as they would be pronounced? I propose that we post the name as it would be pronounced only - and anytime we have to kick any player we first do a general search of that name on our forum so that we keep the posts topic specific and not have one post for example: [)3v1L (as seen on server) and one for Devil (properly pronounced). We only have the topic as Devil to keep the information precise and cohesive.

My 2 cents.

Thank you Darkmatter for giving this topic your valuable time and energy. I hope this creates a better gaming experience for our welcomed guests as well as members of our clan.

On the time frame i'm thinking sooner rather then later this is to sort out the problem players so the ones that may screw up once in a while are not the problem if player x gets reported 3 times in one week its a problem if its 3 times in 3 months then its more like he is just having bad luck like we all do this is more for the more obvious problem players or thats the way i would like it to be. That said if it gets to the point a player is taking the warning calming down then going back to the way he was playing, 30 day ban to show him its not going to be tolerated i think grey areas are going to be hit.

As for players names if we know 'The devil' 'devil' 'de-vil' 't]-[e-DeViL' are all the same player it doesnt matter they may get a little lucky in the fact multi posts are made but one of the admins will figure hey there the same player and then we deal.

All admins should be reading up on who is and isnt banned anyway.

By "3 warnings" and then a 30 day ban do you mean just that or are meaning being kicked 3 times.

I would also like to see at least 2 different admins contributing to the issuing of any loss of server priveleges so there's no claims of "so and so has it in for me".

{DOU}Cygnus wrote: By "3 warnings" and then a 30 day ban do you mean just that or are meaning being kicked 3 times.

I would also like to see at least 2 different admins contributing to the issuing of any loss of server priveleges so there's no claims of "so and so has it in for me".

Sorry i realised it was clearer in my mind then what i posted so altered my first post hope it makes more sense now....

*DARKMATTER* wrote: [quote={DOU}Cygnus]By "3 warnings" and then a 30 day ban do you mean just that or are meaning being kicked 3 times.

I would also like to see at least 2 different admins contributing to the issuing of any loss of server priveleges so there's no claims of "so and so has it in for me".

Sorry i realised it was clearer in my mind then what i posted so altered my first post hope it makes more sense now....

Thank you for the changes. Clears it right up. 8)