I was on the server today and a player accused me of shooting him too close. (The player moved up to me) He was about 20 m. away. So he said something to me and then Nathan said something to me. I know the rules and I give other players respect. So, why is it that you have a close kill mod and yet people accuse of close killing? I've had two Admins and the leader tell me as long as I don't back up, the close kill mod doesn't go off, then everything is fine. Other Admins tell me that it's not okay, please explain? If 10m. is too close for the close kill mod., just extend it and we won't have this question.
Good question.
I have the same question.
I have been accused of shooting up close.
When I shoot close, if mod is working, it works. Then I stop shooting and leave.
If I am at the correct distance. the mod does not works, then I continue firing my targets till get the kill.
What's the problem with that...?
There are people who claim to claim only, and without justification.
Sometimes the administrators are not in spectator mod, so they do not have any notice about the claim, but usually they warns the accused player.
In this I agreed with Devil....
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P.S. You are old with us Devil Child. Find an avatar and put it. And come to talk with us more often in the forum.
:eek [link2]LOOK THERE, http://clandou.com/html/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=36&jfile=viewtopic.php&f=8&t=8452&hilit=close+kill+mod [/link2] and nice reading
I agree with R_Mad if the mod does not stop you and you are not backing up to kill, IT IS CLEAN
I think its wrong to have this discussion here on the public area.
It should be held between admins in the members only section !
I wont discuss the matter here. Devil_Child is well aware of the way I think about it.
If its his goal to lure us in to a contradiction I wish him success. I wont be part of the plan.
Make the mod 20m......that will fix everything 🙂
No more close kills, no more sneak and kills, no more worry about backing up.
sorry...I think my reply came at the same time as your message.
feel free to move the post
i agree with natan 😀
Natan,
I can respect not discussing it here but let us know what you guys decide...Cause it is hard to follow the rules depending what admin you are playing with..
Devil_Child wrote: Natan,
I can respect not discussing it here but let us know what you guys decide...Cause it is hard to follow the rules depending what admin you are playing with..
I've allready started the discusion in the members only area.
The outcome will hopefully be clear for everyone.
NATAN wrote: [quote=Devil_Child]Natan,
I can respect not discussing it here but let us know what you guys decide...Cause it is hard to follow the rules depending what admin you are playing with..
I've allready started the discusion in the members only area.
The outcome will hopefully be clear for everyone.
Nice. :peace_v:
It's confusing to see some admins tell you this, while others tell you otherwise.. I'd just like to say that if you are going to enforce Close Kill other than the mod is adjusted to (15m, I don't know), than what's the point of having a Close Kill Mod?
I would like to quote an unbiased rule in the Camping i/t Extreme Ladder on FraggedNation.com:
11.5
No Close Kills!!!
Sniping is done from a distance, period. A mod will be in place to ensure this. More often than not, a "re-locating" player moves in on a "camped" player, both usually have the reflex to shoot, if the camped player loses, nine times out of ten they feel assaulted. Since it is illegal to assault, it is illegal to kill up close. In your scope, you must be at a range of 17.5 to be far enough away. Make the first shot count-if it doesn't, move on!
11.7 No backing out of range while shooting
No warnings, -3 frag penalty every time. See the "penalty" section.
If you move in on a player and you are too close to kill them, you are obligated to go find another spot. Your opponent is obligated to allow you to go. If any player is seen shooting while backing out of range there will be a -3frag penalty. This goes both ways, if a player is caught firing at someone trying to move on, they will receive the same penalty. Again, true sniping is done from a distance. After two minutes, the opponent you came into contact with, will be considered "fair game."
Let me also point out that it is very important to leave your opponent's spot as fast as possible. Failure to do so allows your opponent to tell their team where you are, and if you don't get out of there quick enough you risk being shot by your opponent's teammate.
Hope that helps.
OrangUtang wrote:
I would like to quote an unbiased rule in the Camping i/t Extreme Ladder on FraggedNation.com:11.5
No Close Kills!!!
Sniping is done from a distance, period. A mod will be in place to ensure this. More often than not, a "re-locating" player moves in on a "camped" player, both usually have the reflex to shoot, if the camped player loses, nine times out of ten they feel assaulted. Since it is illegal to assault, it is illegal to kill up close. In your scope, you must be at a range of 17.5 to be far enough away. Make the first shot count-if it doesn't, move on!
11.7 No backing out of range while shooting
No warnings, -3 frag penalty every time. See the "penalty" section.
If you move in on a player and you are too close to kill them, you are obligated to go find another spot. Your opponent is obligated to allow you to go. If any player is seen shooting while backing out of range there will be a -3frag penalty. This goes both ways, if a player is caught firing at someone trying to move on, they will receive the same penalty. Again, true sniping is done from a distance. After two minutes, the opponent you came into contact with, will be considered "fair game."
Let me also point out that it is very important to leave your opponent's spot as fast as possible. Failure to do so allows your opponent to tell their team where you are, and if you don't get out of there quick enough you risk being shot by your opponent's teammate.
Hope that helps.
Pretty much what number 3 rule is in ours but nobody takes notice
3) No assaulting - DO not rush another players position to shoot them, kill from a distance. Sometimes you will enter an occupied room accidently or spawn close to another person, the close kill mod was added to avoid close kill fighting, leave the area do not back up to get out of the no kill zone then shoot the player or you will be kicked.
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Not really, but probably everything I'm trying to say will sound like I'm trying to provoke so :tumbleweed:
It's been two weeks any word yet??
Devil_Child wrote: It's been two weeks any word yet??
Shooting closeby is legal when the NoCloseKill Mod will let you.
The mod should / will be adjust to double or triple the distance.
Till that doesn’t happen the distance to shoot will be legal as it is set now.
Backin' off to get out of the mod's reach is not Legal and will be booted.
KEEP THIS RULE IN MIND !
3) No assaulting - DO not rush another players position to shoot them, kill from a distance. Sometimes you will enter an occupied room accidently or spawn close to another person, the close kill mod was added to avoid close kill fighting, leave the area do not back up to get out of the no kill zone then shoot the player or you will be kicked.
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