)(er)(es wrote: What kind of myths are you referring to? By "in action" do you mean military or are you referring to merchant ships?
Possibly anything about ships out to sea...
I've heard of one that had virtually disappeared and reappeared missing 2 crewmembers... something about green fog???
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
GRouND ZeRo wrote: [quote=)(er)(es]What kind of myths are you referring to? By "in action" do you mean military or are you referring to merchant ships?
Possibly anything about ships out to sea...
I've heard of one that had virtually disappeared and reappeared missing 2 crewmembers... something about green fog???
You're referring to the Philadelphia Project.
I believe Einstein was involved with it and I think it had to do with something about using a powerful energy field of some kind to render a ship invisible to radar.
Apparently, according to dockside gossip supposedly from Navy crewmembers that were involved on the ship used in the experiment, the ship disappeared entirely for a time and there were fatalities and a couple who didn't return from wherever the ship went to. Some others supposedly went mad.
The experiment was deemed a failure and not pursued further.
I know a Navy vet who was in the service for some time and who had access to some sensitive things. I asked him about this several times and all he would ever do is give me a small smile and say: "Could be."
As for mysteries in general, there's an earlier part of this thread that covers the Marie Celest. There's also the Flying Dutchman and for military there's the U.S.S. Maine and the IJN Mutsu, 2 battleships that exploded at anchor with no definitive proof as to what exactly set off their magazines.
I'm sure there are many, many more out there if you do a search for them.
-JB
YA! I think that was the Philadelphia Project...
That must have been one of the most Horrid I've ever heard for mysteries dealing with Ships in naval service...
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
I remember a substitute teacher one time back in shop class that used to serve back in the NAVY, he told of the worst time he ever had in service on a ship where he was asked to get a Depth Charge ready where he had to insert a delicate fuse in it and sometime later the ALL CLEAR was given where he had to remove the fuse out of it and he thought it was easy as pie since the fuse went in easy in the first place but he had trouble with the delicate fuse because he couldn't get the fuse out and he didn't want to report the problem to his peers so he was fustrated with it not comming out because he could literally blow himself up if the delicate fuse broke and he tried to get the fuse out without blowing himself up in the process so he said that he was sweatting his pants off worrying that he can't fail but somehow he managed to get the fuse out after all the panic!!!
I wouldn't put myself in such a bad situation but if it was in service for my country I would do my best...
"The buddy system is essential to your survival; it gives the enemy somebody else to shoot at!!"
Believe me....I'd rather have to put up doing what he did disarming the depth charge than some of the other jobs that were available then.
One of the worst I could imagine was being in a tank. Your demise was seldom quick and usually involved burning to death in some way. Our main battle tank in WWII carried a 75mm gun and some armor. The Nazis main tanks carried 88mm guns and had that legendary Krupp armor.
Then, in Viet-Nam, there were those special mines that burned through the bottom of a tank and all the crew members usually ended up being liquified together into a puddle on the tank's floor.
Today's tanks (Abrahms) are much more safety-designed but I still get the willies thinking about being inside one of them.
Give me the Navy any day.
One of my earlier posts on this subject was the U.S.S. Wisconsin. She was one of the last battleships to be retired. I had wanted to include a very cool link at the time but I could not find it until now. This link will open up a video of the last firing of all 9 of her 16 inch guns. If you are not familiar with Naval rifles, the 16 inches refers to the width of the shells being fired. Each shell is nearly equivalent to a small automobile in weight. The Wisconsin and each of her 3 sisters could deliver 2 full broadsides per minute with deadly accuracy. If I remember correctly that equals around 27 tons of explosive on a target per minute.
Turn up the volume and click on the link....
http://nnhs65.00freehost.com/famous-sailors/USS-WISCONSIN-FINAL-16-INCH-GUN-FIRING.wmv
-JB
WARSAW, Poland (July 27) - Poland's Navy said Thursday that it has identified a sunken shipwreck in the Baltic Sea as almost certainly being Nazi Germany's only aircraft carrier, the Graf Zeppelin - a find that promises to shed light on a 59-year-old mystery surrounding the ship's fate.
The Polish oil company Petrobaltic discovered the shipwreck earlier this month on the sea floor about 38 miles north of the northern port city of Gdansk.
Suspecting it could be the wreckage of the Graf Zeppelin, the Polish Navy sent out a hydrographic survey vessel on Tuesday, said Lt. Cmdr. Bartosz Zajda, a spokesman for the Polish Navy.
"We are 99 percent sure - even 99.9 percent - that these details point unambiguously to the Graf Zeppelin," said Dariusz Beczek, the Navy commander of the vessel, the ORP Arctowski, said soon after returning to port Thursday morning after the two-day expedition.
During their time at sea, naval experts used a remote-controlled underwater robot and sonar photographic and video equipment to gather digital images of the 850-foot-long ship, Zajda said.
"The analyses of the sonar pictures and the comparison to historical documents show that it is the Graf Zeppelin," Zajda told The Associated Press.
Zajda said a number of characteristics of the shipwreck exactly matched those of the Graf Zeppelin, including the ship's measurements and a special device that lifted aircraft onto the launch deck from a lower deck.
The naval experts were still waiting to find the name "Graf Zeppelin" on one the ship's sides before declaring with absolute certainty that it is the German carrier, Zajda said.
The Graf Zeppelin was Germany's only aircraft carrier during World War II. It was launched on Dec. 8, 1938, but never saw action. After Germany's defeat in 1945, the Soviet Union took control of the ship, but it was last seen in 1947 and since then the ship's fate has been shrouded in mystery.
Navy researchers plan to continue to examine the material they gathered during their two days at sea, but the analysis of the shipwreck will then fall to historians and other researchers, Zajda said.
The Graf Zeppelin will almost certain remain on the sea bed, he said.
"Technically it's impossible to pull it out of the water," Zajda said.
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