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(@musette)
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Wow heated debate going on in here....Tommy if you aren't a lawyer, you should have been one.

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Posted : 12/05/2006 5:32 am
Tommy
(@tommy)
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escapedturkey wrote: Erm, if someone needs food for their family there are so many charities out there that would help, including religious ones like 'Catholic Charities'. No need to steal.

Agreed. Thats why it is considered a crime and is punishable by law. But cutting off a hand...?

T

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Posted : 12/05/2006 9:57 am
{DOU}Cygnus
(@doucygnus)
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Tommy wrote: [quote=escapedturkey]Erm, if someone needs food for their family there are so many charities out there that would help, including religious ones like 'Catholic Charities'. No need to steal.

Agreed. Thats why it is considered a crime and is punishable by law. But cutting off a hand...?

T

I could see it if it's a habitual offender. But yeah, i think it's kinda stiff for the crime.

-JB

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Posted : 12/05/2006 10:36 am
(@anonymous)
Noble Member Guest

Tommy wrote:
Agreed. Thats why it is considered a crime and is punishable by law. But cutting off a hand...?

T

We shouldn't cut off his hand. We should cut off his privates. That way he will stop breeding irresponsibly, especially since he can't afford to take care of his current kids and is apparently too stupid to seek proper help.

😮

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Topic starter Posted : 12/05/2006 10:39 am
(@douthe-jargonaut)
Noble Member

You really think no one sees through your BS?

"Strawman" Fallacy: A caricature of your opponent's view set up simply so that you can knock it down.

Seeing how I did not present you with a caricature of your premise and conclusion, this was not a strawman.

car·i·ca·ture n.

1. A representation, especially pictorial or literary, in which the subject's distinctive features or peculiarities are deliberately exaggerated to produce a comic or grotesque effect.

2. The art of creating such representations.

2. A grotesque imitation or misrepresentation: The trial was a caricature of justice.

tr.v. car·i·ca·tured, car·i·ca·tur·ing, car·i·ca·tures

To represent or imitate in an exaggerated, distorted manner.

Now, no one even said ANYTHING about bologna or a starving family. That is until you brought it up. You created an example, exagerated it, and tried to use it against me.

"Strawman" Fallacy: A caricature of your opponent's view set up simply so that you can knock it down.

Looks like I hit it on the head. But I digress...

Rather than the strawman, I used a debate technique called a "counterexample."

Counterexample: A particular case which refutes a generalisation. Generalisations can be shown to be false by means of a single exception.

Shall I continue?

It was not I who committed a fallacy, but you.

"That's a fallacy" Fallacy: The manoeuvre of falsly accusing someone of committing a fallacy.

Ouch!

Sorry Jarg, but this is what I studied in college (arguementation).

Slightly related, see also:

"Black-and-white thinking"

You forgot to throw in "Red Herring".

Something that draws attention away from the central issue.

Oh, back to this one:

Counterexample: A particular case which refutes a generalisation. Generalisations can be shown to be false by means of a single exception.

Your argument did not prove your case that theft does not deserve punishment by dismemberment. It only voiced your opinion. Therefore the point is still valid.

Sorry Tommy but I did not need to go to college for this.

Care for a bologna sandwich? Oh.. someone stole it. All that is left is crow.

Ouch!

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Posted : 12/05/2006 11:15 am
(@douplumber)
Honorable Member

Like say Turkey sorry bout your c.c.

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Posted : 12/05/2006 1:55 pm
{DOU}Cygnus
(@doucygnus)
Illustrious Member

I would like to suggest ...

Everybody lightening up a tad!

Just agree to disagree and bury the issue.

Thank you! :3stooges:

BTW, Sorry to read about your misfortune, ET. Luckily it looks like no permanent damage as a result. Maybe it might be a decent idea to make sure none of this crap shows up on your credit report.

-JB

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Posted : 12/05/2006 8:14 pm
.::/3I§ON::.
(@3ion)
Member Admin

{DOU} Cygnus X-1 wrote: I would like to suggest ...

Everybody lightening up a tad!

Just agree to disagree and bury the issue.

Thank you! :3stooges:

BTW, Sorry to read about your misfortune, ET. Luckily it looks like no permanent damage as a result. Maybe it might be a decent idea to make sure none of this crap shows up on your credit report.

-JB

Wow, & I wasn't even involved in this one :mrgreen:

Therapy must be working for me 😈

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Posted : 12/05/2006 9:44 pm
{DOU}Charger
(@doucharger)
Member

-=Bi§oN=- wrote: [quote={DOU} Cygnus X-1]I would like to suggest ...

Everybody lightening up a tad!

Just agree to disagree and bury the issue.

Thank you! :3stooges:

BTW, Sorry to read about your misfortune, ET. Luckily it looks like no permanent damage as a result. Maybe it might be a decent idea to make sure none of this crap shows up on your credit report.

-JB

Wow, & I wasn't even involved in this one :mrgreen:

Therapy must be working for me 😈

::HYST::

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Posted : 12/05/2006 9:49 pm
.::/3I§ON::.
(@3ion)
Member Admin

What

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Posted : 12/05/2006 10:09 pm
{DOU}Charger
(@doucharger)
Member

I just found it really funny that neither of us are involved with this one.

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Posted : 13/05/2006 2:05 am
(@douthe-jargonaut)
Noble Member

Actually, there was no malice intended on my part. Tommy likes to debate, and so do I. I was just stepping up to the plate. I am positive he will tear me a new one when he responds 😆

If any ill feelings were conveyed, then I apologize.

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Posted : 13/05/2006 7:19 am
(@anonymous)
Noble Member Guest

This thread is great evidence for male PMS. 😛

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Topic starter Posted : 13/05/2006 7:34 am
{DOU}Cygnus
(@doucygnus)
Illustrious Member

escapedturkey wrote: This thread is great evidence for male PMS. 😛

What's really great is that they live close enough to kiss and make up! :smileysex5:

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Posted : 13/05/2006 11:35 am
(@douthe-jargonaut)
Noble Member

{DOU} Cygnus X-1 wrote: [quote=escapedturkey]This thread is great evidence for male PMS. 😛

What's really great is that they live close enough to kiss and make up! :smileysex5:

That's NOT what I meant when i said he would "tear me a new one" 😛

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Posted : 13/05/2006 11:47 am
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