Is it crappy of me to think of using my friends here as a sounding board? If not will you give a listen to the link below? I need some outside opinions that I can trust. My challenge has been to come up with a new tone to go along with the more mellow genre of music I'm recording. I think I finally got it by using the backside of a 1" condenser on a 2200-B monitor...of all things. This isn't about the guitar playing. The playing sucks and is just a loose improv in order to check the tone and color of the guitar. So, don't beat me up over the guitar. This is just about the sound. Any opinions would really be helpful in nailing this down for me. If it sounds like puke though ya gotta tell me because it wont do me any good if ya fib. So, this is what I'm looking for...does it need more highs, lows, mids, reverb, delay, etc. Right now the guitar is running no delay at all, and most of the verb is from the phase cancellation caused by purposefully using the backside of the mic. Bottom line is I need to know if the tone is appealing with this mellower type of music. Thanks in advance. Listen here - http://ebay.thehybrid.net/Misc/mictest2.mp3
I Would Love To Listen BUT............... The Link Isn't Coming Up For Me 😆
I'm sorry SoReal. I have no idea what to do about that 🙁
{DOU}SilentBob wrote: I'm sorry SoReal. I have no idea what to do about that 🙁
Her browser might not know how to handle the file. My browser (FireFox) as I suspect everybody else's isn't downloading but rather playing it in the browser. I hate how browsers try to be everything.
I would suggest you zip it and make that available for download. If you need me to host it let me know and I will put it up asap.
Tommy
Robert Cray meets Jimi Hendrix?
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I was actually having images of Santana-meets-Hendrix dancing in my head. The tone is very similar. All in all, a very good tone. Maybe just a little more meat on the bottom end? Have a good one.
-Johnny Jones
Maybe just a little more meat on the bottom end
I think you're right about that. Plus the more I listen to it the more I think I notched the mids out a bit too much. It sounds too distant. Thanks for the input. It helps:)
i would like to hear it but i get no sound 😥 maybe some one could send it to me?
Well... It's not that the tone is unappealing, it justs seems to be missing something. I would probably pull a little 1k out of it, but put everything else close to flat with a slight arc I don't like too much mid range in solo tones. That's my 2 cents
mAmA
Funny you would say that Yoma, because it's right around 1k that I have notched out in that example:) If I bright that up a little the entire thing will be back to flat. I just got my hands on Native Instruments Guitar Rig program and it's supposed to be such a good emulator that some folks I know are using it to record direct...we'll see.
For those that can not hear the link, try right clicking and saving to the desktop.
As far as the tone, I am one of those peeps that like the high end. If it were me mixing, I would try to bring out the guitar a little in the upper bands. Not much mind you so as not to ruin the mellow effect but enough to give it some life. Also, I would do the same with the drums to make them more crisp. Give some life to that high hat.
I listened to this without eq in some decent headphones so I hope I was hearing what you were hearing. Oh, and yes, fatten out that bass riff.
I think the mids are fine where they are.
Just my .02
J
I've already gone back to direct lol. Miking is such a pain in the ass and the emulators available these days do the trick pretty well. For example I just picked up Native Instruments Guitar Rig-2 and am blown away. You can pick any amp, any cab, any mic and even mic placement and the emulation/modeling is astonishing. Last night I brought up a Mesa Boogie Rectifier with a 4x12 cab, miked it with an SM57 and if not for the lack of physical evidence no-one would be the wiser. The modeling is spot on! Same with the VR marshall Lead 800...sounded just like it. The two local studios I do work with (Planet Records and Reel-Time) are both using it with great success. Corey over at Planet says he doesn't mic cabs at all anymore. Modelers have come a very long way since the days of the Anteres! So my beautiful gold-sputtered 1" condenser goes back into mothballs. Direct is as good and so much easier if you have the right goodies. Guitarist and bassists of D.O.U. .....go check this prog out! Can you say Torrent? I knew you could:)
The times I've been in studio, I have never used a cab or a mic. The engineers just plugged my bass straight into the board and set everything flat. Later, during mixdown, they would add a bunch of EQ and compression and adjust the tone to sound like my rig. I love being a bassist because of this fact. If you would like to get a sample of my bands music, you can find it at http://www.myspace.com/ten58rock or http://www.betarecords.com/ten-58 to hear the music. We did this in my garage using a 16 track digital multi-tracker, each of us only doing our parts in 1 take, except the lead singer. He went back and re-did his parts because we didn't use a pop filter the first time and couldn't fix it. We then imported all the files from the multi-tracker into a computer and used Sonic Foundry to do the final mixdown. Have a good one.
-Johnny Jones
35 years I've been playing music and I'm still learning 🙂 Love your bands stuff by the way! Keep up the good work.
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